Son Goku vs Aurelion Sol

[DeezNuts1102]

Goku also has Regenerationn in SSG, about the black hole thing, Goku can easily escape that, his speed is scaled from Beerus and Beerus was scale from Whis. Keep in mind, Whis's speed was EXTREMELY lowballed. Goku in Base form tanked and destroyed Beerus' Super Energy Sphere which is at least multi-galaxy+/possibly universe level with a punch. Sol absolutely has no chance of hurting goku.

 

[Cropfist]

Except Sol can throw his black holes. They don't just stay in one place.

 

[DeezNuts1102]

Goku normal speed is already billions times the speed of light(extremely lowballed), even if Sol throws black holes, Goku can easily escape it without any effort

 

[Cropfist]

Even if they should logically be thrown at a similar or faster speed than Sol...?

 

[DeezNuts1102]

Like i said, if Goku got caught in a black hole, He can easily escape it, he's freaking above billions of lightspeed. "THROWING" a blackhole at a MTFL+ speed doesn't mean anything, that's a strength feat and can catch someone at a faster rate which is still useless against FTL characters because the black hole's nature is escapable by FTL+ characters.

 

[Cropfist]

If he actually gets directly hit by it he's dead because black holes ignore durability.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

What Crop said. Black holes are a game changer as their force is high 3-A or something like that.

 

[DeezNuts1102]

Since when did Black hole is considered as high 3-A?

I doubt he would get hit directly since he's already billions times the speed of light.

Also can you tell me when did Sol throw black holes at MTFL speed? provide sources if have any

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

We had a discussion on the strength of a black hole recently and I remember the things being beyond normal universeness. Funny enough, we also recently had a thread on if Goku could survive in a black hole.

It should be assumed that he could throw at MFTL+ speeds due to his, well, speed. And coupled with the fact that black holes have an FTL vacuum, I could see Goku being hit with one, but I could also see Goku hitting more often.

 

[DeezNuts1102]

Can you link those discussion here? And also if Sol actually did throw black holes at MTFL+ speed, can you provided sources in that regard?

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

ok just putting it out there that if a verse has characters that can go ftl normally

then the bla ck hole wont function like a regular one

and hence escape is most likely possible merely via ftl speeds (since the black holes themselves wont be accurate to real ones in an ftl verse)

 

[Yojimbo1989]

Black holes ignore durability, but this only if said character reaches the singularity, where the gravitational force becomes infinite. However, Goku should be fast enough to see the black holes coming and should he get caught in one, he's definitely fast enough to escape.

Another thing to mention is how big are the black holes that Sol throws. Because in actuality the time that a black hole exists is proportional to its size. The smaller the black hole the less time it exists. So if it were a small black hole it might not last for enough time to do anything

As for the votes, I count about 3 for Goku and 2 for Sol.

 

[Lawd_Obito]

I'd say Goku could win, he's an high end 3-B in SSG form. Both speeds should be relatively equal (Massively FTL+), so Goku's slight superiority in raw power would be useful.

I give my vote to him, depends on how the black hole issue ends. He still wins by, say, 6 or 7/10, because Aurelion still has the speed and hax to match him.

 

[Yojimbo1989]

Another thing to note is that black holes are not 3-A in terms of destructive power, if that were the case, our own universe would not exist.

For a black hole to be universal in terms of destructive power it would have to have an event horizon of universal radius. Saying that it would be possible for a 3-A level character to be killed by a black hole, but again this assumes they actually get caught in the singularity. Many high level tiers usually possess some kind of speed advantage to escape the BH or some hax ability to counter it

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

luk as i said if a verse has ftl beings then the black holes dont actually behave like real ones

so plz try not to add any implicit properties of real black holes to such fictional ones

 

[SilentShinobi]

SPOILER ALERT

Goku in his blue form is still not as powerful as Beerus, and can't even scratch Whis because Whis is more powerful than Beerus.In RoF when Beerus destroyed that planet when he woke up Goku asked Whis "Are you guys powerful enough to make stars?" and he replied "Of course not."

Aurelion Sol can make and destroy stars with his hands!

SEE IN TRAILER BELOW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAAnY_L4Pp4

He is an omnipotent being, he can also destroy galaxies if he wants possibly even universes + he can alter his size!

If you ask me this is a mismatch, the only thing in DB universe that might have a chance of "deafeating" Aurelion is Zeno. Because Aurelion was there since the "dawn of time" and he cannot be killed.

I would recommend that you read Aurelio's lore before you start commenting " Goku one-shots"

 

[Huesito88]

First the Kai's can create planets yet many characters in dbz can't but have way more destructive capabilities second just cause someone states a character is omnipotent doesn't mean they are. Also my vote goku

 

[SilentShinobi]

1) Are you a League of Legends player?

2) Yes Kai's can create planets, but GODS and whatever Whis is cannot create stars! It is beyond their power... but Sol can do it!

3) Please explain to me how is Goku going to deafeat him ? I can't think of a single way that Goku would be able to "hurt" him...

- Goku cannot survive in vaccum

-Aurelion can destroy galaxies

-He can be the size of a galaxy if he wants

-Sol CANNOT be destroyed

He is not Shenron nor Omega Shenron, Aurelion is not a sentient being. Yes speed would be crucial... but it would just anger Aurelion and he would destroy the planet and there is nothing that Goku could do to stop it! "Boring me is dangerous."

"They call me a comet, they call me a dragon. They have no words for my true form."

"Galaxies exist by my will-but, yes, certainly an impressive sword."

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aurelion_Sol/Quotes and here are some of his quotes. Enjoy!

 

[KuuIchigo]

You can't prove Omnipotence.