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Because his superior to butterfly choji who has a low 7-C feat, this is pre time skip ChojibeAizentheMighty said:
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Some Revisions to Itachi
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and Pre time skip gaara who also has a low 7-C feat
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lmao you have no idea what you're talking about. k got itLordWhis said:
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so why is it that only MS sasuke is superior to butterfly choji while base sasuke is inferior to butterfly choji? does it ever say in the manga that this is the case?
none of you guys have solid proof, not that i expected any... just a bunch of "the wiki says so" and vague "evidence" that has nothing that backs it up. seriously, not a single one of you has a single scan that says that MS increases physical stats? that's all i'm asking for dammit
none of you guys have solid proof, not that i expected any... just a bunch of "the wiki says so" and vague "evidence" that has nothing that backs it up. seriously, not a single one of you has a single scan that says that MS increases physical stats? that's all i'm asking for dammit
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if you watched Naruto you would know that Sharingan abilities its variants have increased characters power far above just your typical haxy stuff
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AizentheMighty said:
You dont have to be Rude
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just because "the wiki says so" doesn't mean that it's 100% fact. there's needs to be a reason behind why the wiki gives a character a certain rating. and LordWhis isnt giving me a single reason or scan.
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there are reasons obviously, these things are discussed in our revisions and what not, the Thing is Base Sasuke is likely to get upgraded
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Most Jonin level Characters will be upgraded to low 7-C, which includes base Shippuden Sasuke
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holy **** can someone answer my damn question already? where is the proof that the mangekyo sharingan increases physical stats? not a single one of you answered my question yet
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Sasuke got stronger after activating sharingan in his fight against naruto(first one)
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Dude, at least try to be nice about it. People are tryiing to answer your question, if they are wrong they are wrong.AizentheMighty said:
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Sasuke after gaining MS was capable of keeping up with Killer Bee
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And blocking his attacks.
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Itachi went from downright being inferior to base Jiraiya to being able to keep up with KCM Naruto
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holy shit i'm losing ******* brain cells. is everyone on this wiki that ******* dumb? sasuke stopped getting his ass kicked after unlocking the three tomoe sharingan because he was able to predict naruto's moves, not because his physical stats increased. nobody on this site knows anything about naruto from what i'm seeing.ShrekAlmighty said:
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what? when?Shadowbokunohero said:
sasuke was getting his ass kicked by killer bee, then after unlocking MS, he used amaterasu and genjutsu to barely survive killer bee. that had absolutely nothing to do with physical stats.
conclusion: MS does not increase physical stats.
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Dude, get off your high horse and stfu for once. You are not the cleverest person in existence try to read more than just one of the things given and try not too generalize a whole wiki. Also try to type without putting in a swear word.AizentheMighty said:
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Yeah survived getting Clobbered by Naruto's Chakra arms, i guess Naruto's chakra doesn't increase his physical stats either.. lol.. the only thing im seeing right now is a Downplayer
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i just proved you wrong like 15 times, and you didnt once debunk a thing i said. and now you're telling me to stfu? i never said im the cleverest person on this wiki, im simply just frustrated because not a single one of you knows a thing about naruto. if you dont know anything about naruto, then please stop talking to me.Rocker1189 said:
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You all need to calm down. You're doing nothing more than making this thread toxic for no reason.
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yeah and sasuke ******* survived a clobbering from initial bijuu mode naruto before he unlocked the three tomoe sharingan. it just means that sasuke was that durable. you really think that having a three tomoe sharingan instead of a two tomoe sharingan increases your durability? the uchiha is all about visual prowess whereas the senju is about the body. the uchiha clan's sharingan ability is almost completely about visual prowess and genjutsu, not an increase in physical stats.Shadowbokunohero said:
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Dude at first you were correct in the assessment of no one providing reasons then after people talked about characters he scaled off of. You nit-picked on of them while ignoring the others.AizentheMighty said:
And you frustration is no reason to being insulting others.
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and we have given reasons, so apparently, i don't know anything about Naruto despite me owning every single volume of the anime and the translated Databooks... if you disagree then fine but don't generalize everyone and start bashing them
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@lordwhis
once again, the only thing sasuke's MS did for him in the killer bee fight was the ability to briefly knock out killer bee with genjutsu and then immobilize him with amaterasu. neither of those has anything to do with physical stats.
once again, the only thing sasuke's MS did for him in the killer bee fight was the ability to briefly knock out killer bee with genjutsu and then immobilize him with amaterasu. neither of those has anything to do with physical stats.
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what in the actual **** are you talking about? you didnt give me a single valid reason. like holy shit are you actual being serious here?Shadowbokunohero said:
and you own every volume of naruto or whatever, yet you cant prove that the sharingan increases physical stats? lmao this is too good
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listen. i get that sasuke scales from some characters. but why is that his base forms physical stats doesnt scale, and that only MS sasuke scales? thats implying that MS sasuke has better physical stats than base sasuke, yet you gave no reasons or proof as to why this is true. thats all im asking forRocker1189 said:
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every single one of you guys are saying that the sharingan increases physical stats. then you brought up the naruto fight. but sasuke only held his own against kyuubi naruto because he was able to predict his movements, not because his physical stats increased.
you guys also brought up the killer bee fight. but in this fight, the MS did not increase sasukes physical stats at all, he only survived killer bee thanks to amaterasu and genjutsu. neither has anything to do with physical stats. its like you guys didnt even watch the fight.
lastly, scaling to choji was brought up. but why does MS sasuke scale instead of base? thats the most important thing to note here, yet none of you are giving me a reason. not a single bit of proof.
you guys also brought up the killer bee fight. but in this fight, the MS did not increase sasukes physical stats at all, he only survived killer bee thanks to amaterasu and genjutsu. neither has anything to do with physical stats. its like you guys didnt even watch the fight.
lastly, scaling to choji was brought up. but why does MS sasuke scale instead of base? thats the most important thing to note here, yet none of you are giving me a reason. not a single bit of proof.
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Sigh and I answered..it's true that MS does give you increase in physcal stats by how large? I don't know, Obviously not large enough to warrant a tier upgrade, thats legit why i said their base forms are gonna be upgraded
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I see what you mean about the base and MS now and I think I can understand what you are saying. When the MS key starts it does refer to him in base as well. The MS key does not mean "when he has MS on" but "after he has acquired MS".
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While he is being rude, he gots a point, MS augmenting physicals stats is mostly headcannonAizentheMighty said:
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The Sharingan doesn't increase Strength or Durability, only boosts speed and Iirc, allows them to conserve Stamina. I don't know where you guys are getting MS boosts strength and durabilty, that's pure headcannon.
@LordWhis
Come on bruh, stop wanking Itachi, he's not at any point shown superior to KCM Naruto. Not gonna argue with you on this, NOBODY is gonna agree with that because it's categorically false and verifiably wrong. Period.
@LordWhis
Come on bruh, stop wanking Itachi, he's not at any point shown superior to KCM Naruto. Not gonna argue with you on this, NOBODY is gonna agree with that because it's categorically false and verifiably wrong. Period.
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Btw, Sasuke couldn't keep up or hurt KB physically, despite having unlocked MS, so, that shoots any argument about this stat boost nonsense out the air. Sasuke is implied to have trained off-panel in the time between KB fight and Kage Summit. If he has any stat boost, its attested to that, not the Sharingan.
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@LW
I agree with the SE additions. Itachi doesn't have "Sage Fire Release"(?), if you mean Amaturatsu, then sure, though I don't agree with the "Possibly Far Higher", just "Likely Higher" should be fine. I agree with him being comparable to MS Sasuke Stats wise. Fighting KB and KCM Naruto, sure, but i'd cut out the "Effortlessly" wank.
Honestly, Strength Wise, and Durability wise, I don't see Itachi or MS/EMS Sasuke being sub-tiers below Madara. I'd scale them from him in those categories, especially Sasuke, his reincarnate, but alas....
I agree with the SE additions. Itachi doesn't have "Sage Fire Release"(?), if you mean Amaturatsu, then sure, though I don't agree with the "Possibly Far Higher", just "Likely Higher" should be fine. I agree with him being comparable to MS Sasuke Stats wise. Fighting KB and KCM Naruto, sure, but i'd cut out the "Effortlessly" wank.
Honestly, Strength Wise, and Durability wise, I don't see Itachi or MS/EMS Sasuke being sub-tiers below Madara. I'd scale them from him in those categories, especially Sasuke, his reincarnate, but alas....
