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So uh, a bunch of calcs have been made that upgrade pretty much everything in the verse, including the low tiers, who we'll start off with.
Low Tier Stuff:
Since they're not that much different from your standard fodder enemies and can have small groups of themselves knocked down all at once by a single shove, I don't think Common Infected should scale to the Survivors. With that said, the Common Infected's physicals and Survivors' firearms will be all upgraded to 9-B through these calcs, with Common Infected (and weaker Uncommon Infected) scaling to 379.77178 KJ via the calc of them slowly fragmenting a metal door, weaker firearms scaling to 615.32934 KJ via the calc of them destroying a metal railing within six shots, stronger firearms scaling to 922.99401 KJ via the calc of them destroying a metal railing within only four shots, and the durability of stronger Uncommon Infected (i.e. Jimmy Gibbs and Fallen Survivors) scaling to weaker firearms, as while they do serve as mini-bosses in-game and as a result can tank a bunch of shots from firearms like the standard pistol, they also get one-shot by explosives, melees, and magnum bodyshots, on top of not having in-universe reasoning for being that much more durable than Common Infected.
Agree: AThe1412, Greatsage13th, Mr. Bambu, Catzlaflame, FinePoint
Neutral:
Disagree:
Stuff for Everyone Else (I.E. People Who Aren't Stinky Commons):
Via this 9-A calc performed by Special Infected and these two other slightly lower 9-A calcs performed by the Charger and explosives, all of the following statistics should be upgraded to 9-A:
Neutral:
Disagree:
Subsonic Attack Speed & Reactions:
Through these accepted calcs (and this supporting calc for the Hunter), multiple of the Special Infected's attacks will be upgraded to Superhuman-Subsonic, with the Charger's charging speed being 31.09091 m/s (Superhuman), the Hunter's pouncing speed being 59.47826 m/s (Subsonic), and the Smoker's tongue attack speed being 73.94595 m/s (Subsonic). As for scaling, the game has achievements for the Survivors reacting to and intercepting these attacks, and as such, it shouldn't be too unreasonable to have their reactions scale.
Agree: AThe1412, Greatsage13th, Mr. Bambu (prefers "At least Superhuman, likely Subsonic"), Catzlaflame, FinePoint
Neutral:
Disagree:
Lifting Strength Stuff:
So for lifting strength, I think the Survivors (and most Special Infected as they can overpower them pretty easily, except for the Boomer, Spitter and Witch cause they SUCK and don't grapple the Survivors, and would probably just have their LS scale to Commons as a result) should be Above Average Human, as they can hold each other up in the air with one arm, don't slow down while carrying around a fueled chainsaw, a full propane tank and a loaded M60 machine gun for an extended period of time, and are comparable, if not superior to Common Infected, who can overpower regular humans (which would also make Commons this rating). As for Class M...I might have been clickbaiting a teeny bit, as it (and this supporting Class K calc) would only really scale to Tanks via this calc of one of them ripping out a chunk of the ground.
Agree: AThe1412, Greatsage13th, Mr. Bambu (hesistant on Class M), Catzlaflame, FinePoint (prefers Class K, but is also fine with a "Varies from Class K to Class M" rating)
Neutral
Disagree:
All of these changes have also been compiled into a sandbox (along with some new justifications for statistics already present on the profiles like the Survivors' Athletic Human speed ratings) if you wanna see how these will be listed on the profiles.
Low Tier Stuff:
Since they're not that much different from your standard fodder enemies and can have small groups of themselves knocked down all at once by a single shove, I don't think Common Infected should scale to the Survivors. With that said, the Common Infected's physicals and Survivors' firearms will be all upgraded to 9-B through these calcs, with Common Infected (and weaker Uncommon Infected) scaling to 379.77178 KJ via the calc of them slowly fragmenting a metal door, weaker firearms scaling to 615.32934 KJ via the calc of them destroying a metal railing within six shots, stronger firearms scaling to 922.99401 KJ via the calc of them destroying a metal railing within only four shots, and the durability of stronger Uncommon Infected (i.e. Jimmy Gibbs and Fallen Survivors) scaling to weaker firearms, as while they do serve as mini-bosses in-game and as a result can tank a bunch of shots from firearms like the standard pistol, they also get one-shot by explosives, melees, and magnum bodyshots, on top of not having in-universe reasoning for being that much more durable than Common Infected.
Agree: AThe1412, Greatsage13th, Mr. Bambu, Catzlaflame, FinePoint
Neutral:
Disagree:
Stuff for Everyone Else (I.E. People Who Aren't Stinky Commons):
Via this 9-A calc performed by Special Infected and these two other slightly lower 9-A calcs performed by the Charger and explosives, all of the following statistics should be upgraded to 9-A:
- Special Infected Physicals (Self-explanatory)
- The Survivors' Physicals (They can harm Special Infected and tank Charger charges)
- Explosive Ammunition (Firearms loaded with explosive ammo can stagger Special Infected similarly to how the Survivors can with their physical attacks)
- Charger Durability (They take little damage from the Survivors' physical attacks both in-game and in the cinematics)
- Witch Physicals (More durable than Chargers [Witches take 4 melee hits to kill whereas Chargers only take 2] and can deal heavy damage to the Survivors)
- The Survivors' Explosives (Can harm Chargers and Witches)
- Boomer Explosions (While Boomer explosions don't deal any damage in-game, that's likely a result of game mechanics as they're still able to destroy metal doors in a large radius and stagger Chargers similarly to the Survivors' explosives)
- Melee Weaponry (Can one-shot standard Special Infected and deal good damage to Witches and Chargers)
- Tank Physicals (Can withstand dozens of hits from the Survivors' melees/explosives and deal heavy damage to them)
- Riot Armor Durability (Uncommon Infected wearing this take absolutely no damage from melees)
Neutral:
Disagree:
Subsonic Attack Speed & Reactions:
Through these accepted calcs (and this supporting calc for the Hunter), multiple of the Special Infected's attacks will be upgraded to Superhuman-Subsonic, with the Charger's charging speed being 31.09091 m/s (Superhuman), the Hunter's pouncing speed being 59.47826 m/s (Subsonic), and the Smoker's tongue attack speed being 73.94595 m/s (Subsonic). As for scaling, the game has achievements for the Survivors reacting to and intercepting these attacks, and as such, it shouldn't be too unreasonable to have their reactions scale.
Agree: AThe1412, Greatsage13th, Mr. Bambu (prefers "At least Superhuman, likely Subsonic"), Catzlaflame, FinePoint
Neutral:
Disagree:
Lifting Strength Stuff:
So for lifting strength, I think the Survivors (and most Special Infected as they can overpower them pretty easily, except for the Boomer, Spitter and Witch cause they SUCK and don't grapple the Survivors, and would probably just have their LS scale to Commons as a result) should be Above Average Human, as they can hold each other up in the air with one arm, don't slow down while carrying around a fueled chainsaw, a full propane tank and a loaded M60 machine gun for an extended period of time, and are comparable, if not superior to Common Infected, who can overpower regular humans (which would also make Commons this rating). As for Class M...I might have been clickbaiting a teeny bit, as it (and this supporting Class K calc) would only really scale to Tanks via this calc of one of them ripping out a chunk of the ground.
Agree: AThe1412, Greatsage13th, Mr. Bambu (hesistant on Class M), Catzlaflame, FinePoint (prefers Class K, but is also fine with a "Varies from Class K to Class M" rating)
Neutral
Disagree:
All of these changes have also been compiled into a sandbox (along with some new justifications for statistics already present on the profiles like the Survivors' Athletic Human speed ratings) if you wanna see how these will be listed on the profiles.
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