So what qualifies as a key worthy form?

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

So I was looking around on profiles and I just thought of this. So Batman as the god of knowledge was to short a time or something, and yet C-3PO has a battle droid form iirc he wasn't fully in control of. By the same logic shouldn't Red Skull not have the Red Onslaught form? There are more examples so I was just wondering what counts.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Speed bump

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

I think it's cause C3PO's battle droid form doesn't wank him into an alternate universe, as Batman becoming A FRICKING GOD would.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

And yet he has the hellbat armor that he had for the same amount of time. Also Superman, doesn't he reject the sword of superman? It doesn't matter about the wank, it should matter about consistency. 1. C3PO shouldn't even have that key cause he isn't even in control and it is more of a gag moment iirc. Also Batman God of Knowledge is iirc just regular batman with increased speed, Teleportion, omniscience, timetravel, and Memory Manipulation.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

...You actually make a really good point. If C3PO's battle droid form is just a gag for like 1 minute, which it is, then it shouldn't be there. You should definately see if you can get one of the staff's opinions on this, mate.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Yeah I'll try. A lot of pages have forms that only appeared for a little bit or just have all unknowns like on Juggernaut (Marvel Comics) and Pinhead's Pages. Also how much time is required, for their are characters like the Justice League who have been given abilities of Gods (SuperMan god of strength, Batman god of knowledge, flash god of death, etc.) and parts of the Avengers Became part of the worthy and the mighty (Basically upgraded with Thor level weapons in Fear Itself). Heck Captain America had an armor made by the cosmic cube which he took down the avengers with. Batman has the "Justice Buster" armor he used to battle the Justice Leage and also had the Insider outfit that iirc granted him a lot of Justice Leage abilities. He also has had a lantern ring on numerous occasions. I'm not saying these should have keys, I'm just asking what counts.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

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[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

Ideally I think that we should only feature forms that have been very prominent parts of a storyarc, and lasted more than just very temporarily, so I agree that Red Onslaught and Trion Juggernaut are probably bad ideas to include. However, it is hard to know exactly where to draw the line.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

I mean, Emperor Joker, Superman with his sword, etc. only existed in...what one story? And yet they are popular ideas. Same goes for characters at supposedly full power and such. I mean Dreadpool only existed in a trilogy but is not worthy. Having tiers that are all unknowns is pointless as well.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, given all of the temporary power-ups that have happened over the years in superhero comics, I just don't want the pages to be cluttered with irrelevant extra statistics that are often hard to scale properly.

As I mentioned, I am not sure exactly where to draw the line though, and it is hard to be completely consistent regarding this many characters.