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Ok, I am fine if the eternalsm besides Tenebris, get Unknown, at most High 6-A.

The Shadow Demons being and Shadow being at Unknown, at most Low 7-C scaling from Hermit's feat work for me.

If Titan's tier have many issues, I am fine with Titan's tier and Shadow's first tier being Unknown, at least Low 7-C, likely higher.

>Gizmo and Xiang Tzu's High 8-C tiers with the "Unknown, possibly High 8-C" one.

  • I would be fine with this option.
>The second key should be Low 2-C tier, since Bolo states that Shadow Mind can create the world again (after it got reset) while it is inside the Accelerator Core, and that it also has absolute power while inside the Core (1, 2). This key should be called "In the Accelerator Core".

  • Seems fine
>I also wanna mention his speed feats here, just to make sure if they are correct or not, so i wont add them in the future if they ain't: Massively Hypersonic (Can keep up with Shadow in combat after the previous dodged Hermit's natural, cloud to earth lightning. Can also dodge Shadow's lightning attacks at point blank range), possibly Immesurable (Even though he is not shown at all to have this speed during his fight against Shadow (due to game balance and/or Plot-Induced Stupidity), he is still one of the physical embodiments of the Great Empy Void - the starting point of all creations (as stated by Word of God here), and as such he should predate time)

  • I am neutral on Immesurable speed, for now.
>So Tenebris becomes 4-C (or High 4-C idk im pretty sure he made all sorts of stars ranging from dwarf to large sizes), likely 3-B (since he likely created multiple galaxies in each individual universe)

  • The stars that have the energy are neutron start which in 4-B; to use this result, the 4-B should need a valid Calculations blog on the wiki so I will if I can come up with something. I am neutral on 3-B.
 
Predating time does not automatically mean being able to freely attack backwards and forwards in time, so immeasurable speed does not seem acceptable.

Except for that, Elizhaa's evaluations are probably fine.
 
Great. Thank you both for giving further imput on this thread.

The only character left that needs a tier change is Chief (Shadow Fight). Since his "controlling the entire landmass of the Shadow Island" is considered not valid enough for a 6-C rating, I say he gets the Unknown, possibly High 8-C tier (same as Xiang Tzu's and Gizmo).
 
Thank you. Is there anything left to do here, or should we close his thread?
 
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