Smiling Friends Ability and Stat Additions

[King_Dom470]

Abilities:
Extrasensory Perception (Allan could see and hear the paperclip guy's ghost but the Landlord seemingly couldn't)

Resistance to Extreme Gravity (Unaffected by the gravity of massive planets being close to the earth. So everyone should get this)

Also Alan should get Resistance to Acid/Gas Manipulation (Like the rest of the cast he can survive being in a room filled with Jasons dust, and like Charlie he was completely unbothered until the dust literally flooded the room) and Possibly Resistance to Radiation Manipulation (Same justifications as Charlie and Mr. Boss)

due to being a Demon Mr. Frog should get Immortality types: 1, 2, and 8 (Since Demons can only die when it's a full moon and their blood needs to be completely drained. Just in case you were iffy about how true this is, interestingly the only other Demons in the series to die thus far: Mip conveniently died at night while there was a full moon. The forest Demon also dies on a full moon. Coincidence?)

Stats:
Mr. Frog should scale to the rest of the verse

All Characters should have Subsonic movement speed with Relativistic combat and reactions (For movement speed Alan could easily keep pace with a pirate ship moving close to those speeds. He also casually reacts to arrows. Both D.J Spit and Alan ran up stairs at blinding speed. The rest of the characters get to relativistic combat and reactions with Charlie deflecting a beam of light)

Mr. Frog should be Class K scaling to this

Everyone else should be Class 25 (Characters in the verse are all relatively equal to each other and all have feats close to this. Even some random party goers could mutilate a demon by ripping it's limbs off and opening it's chest cavity. James could rip a plaque off a stone wall and rip Charlie's nose off without any effort. Alan could hang onto a helicopter going 1500 mph with almost no difficulty even after being hit with a rocket. Charlie kicked with enough force to send a couple tons worth of treasure hurtling down towards a dragon, and even Pim could knock back a satellite)

possibly Building level with weapons and armour (Some pirate guy easily oneshotted a bigfoot and his sword also ended up being the thing to kill him, Pim completely destroyed a satellite with a bat and Alan could actually injure a nearly 200 meter long sea monster with the pirate sword)

 

[King_Dom470]

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[HonestlyBored24]

Few problems with this.

Resistance to Extreme Gravity (Unaffected by the gravity of massive planets being close to the earth. So everyone should get this)

I feel like the planets being close is more so the animators not having a sense of scale rather than the planets actually being extremely close.

Mr. Frog should scale to the rest of the verse

Isn’t Mr. Frog depicted as extremely strong by the verse’s standards? He very casually kills someone during his presidential campaign commercial, and he straight up eats people without them being able to put up any resistance. Unless you show me somebody boxing with Mr. Frog, I ain’t buying it.

Pim completely destroyed a satellite with a bat

Pim didn’t completely destroy the satellite, he smashed open the wing. Even if he did completely destroy it, I’m iffy on him scaling to that physically, as he used a bat, and real life humans aren’t 9-C on average.

Characters in the verse are all relatively equal to each other and all have feats close to this. […] James could rip a plaque off a stone wall and rip Charlie's nose off without any effort.

There is no way you’re saying that everybody is relatively equal to each other and then show a person very casually mutilating the other.

Alan could actually injure a nearly 200 meter long sea monster with the pirate sword

Allan was attacking the sea monster from the inside. That’s textbook Durability Negation. He shouldn’t scale to the monster.


Everything else is fine.

 

[King_Dom470]

Isn’t Mr. Frog depicted as extremely strong by the verse’s standards? He very casually kills someone during his presidential campaign commercial, and he straight up eats people without them being able to put up any resistance. Unless you show me somebody boxing with Mr. Frog, I ain’t buying it.

I'm fine with Mr. Frog upscaling to baseline 8-C but either way there's no way he's just 9-C

There is no way you’re saying that everybody is relatively equal to each other and then show a person very casually mutilating the other.

That's not due to a lack of physical strength on Charlie's part thats due to him not being allowed to do anything that might make James upset. For all we know he would've been capable of fighting him off

 

[HonestlyBored24]

I'm fine with Mr. Frog upscaling to baseline 8-C but either way there's no way he's just 9-C

Oh, I thought you meant that everybody should scale to Mr. Frog, sorry for the misunderstanding.

That's not due to a lack of physical strength on Charlie's part thats due to him not being allowed to do anything that might make James upset. For all we know he would've been capable of fighting him off

Yeah, “for all we know”. At no point in the episode is it even remotely shown that Charlie is even somewhat in the same league as James. Pretty sure James even intimidated Charlie, making him audibly gulp (you could say that Charlie was just realizing how hard it would be to make him smile, but the way that scene is framed makes it seem like it’s a bit of both). Also, you’re saying that Charlie is holding back as to not upset James, but I’m pretty sure characters can’t normally hold back their durability.

 

[King_Dom470]

Yeah, “for all we know”. At no point in the episode is it even remotely shown that Charlie is even somewhat in the same league as James. Pretty sure James even intimidated Charlie, making him audibly gulp (you could say that Charlie was just realizing how hard it would be to make him smile, but the way that scene is framed makes it seem like it’s a bit of both). Also, you’re saying that Charlie is holding back as to not upset James, but I’m pretty sure characters can’t normally hold back their durability.

Why is durability relevant they should be similar in that anyways this was talking about lifting strength? But even if we were to assume that James is actually just in his own league it doesn't really matter since every other feat scales pretty confidently to the main cast enough to at least qualify for Class 25

 

[HonestlyBored24]

Why is durability relevant they should be similar in that anyways this was talking about lifting strength? But even if we were to assume that James is actually just in his own league it doesn't really matter since every other feat scales pretty confidently to the main cast enough to at least qualify for Class 25

Okay point is, James is depicted as stronger than Charlie so he should not scale to him in strength.

The Class 25 rating you’re proposing is valid (in my personal opinion), so you should probably revise the OP since none of the Class K feats scale to the main guys except for the gold thing, which seems more like a chain reaction thing that Charlie kicking all of the gold, and even then that should be calculated before being proposed.

 

[Grand_Pete]

I disagree with the resistance to extreme gravity, Pim's feat of destroying a satellite and Alan hurting the sea monster.
All for the same reasons HonestlyBored24 explained.

Everything else looks good.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Besides what's crossed, OP looks fine

Edit: Ah noticed the immortalities. Type 5 and 7 don't fit. The others are good. Also-also, the eye beams aren't necessarily light. Only criteria that seems to fit is being reflected, which is not enough by itself.

@Propellus @ActuallySpaceMan42 @DarkDragonMedeus @Planck69 lil help here

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

Most of these are fine. But I'm skeptical on the light speed stuff, like is there more proof that the beam that Charlie deflected is even real light?

 

[King_Dom470]

Most of these are fine. But I'm skeptical on the light speed stuff, like is there more proof that the beam that Charlie deflected is even real light?

Besides it deflecting like light, I guess the fact that it's glowing, and seems to have a glint when it's originally released?

If it's not enough to be straight up relativistic could it be "possibly relativistic"?

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

Besides it deflecting like light, I guess the fact that it's glowing, and seems to have a glint when it's originally released?

If it's not enough to be straight up relativistic could it be "possibly relativistic"?

Simply just glowing and deflecting aren't enough to meet the lightspeed requirements, not even possibly works in this case

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

I didn't know Smiling Friends was on the wiki.

Also agree with OP

 

[King_Dom470]

Simply just glowing and deflecting aren't enough to meet the lightspeed requirements, not even possibly works in this case

Fair enough