Small Upgrade for Ruminas Valentine (WN Tensura)

Ruminas should be 3-A too .She was able to fight milim for 3 days and 3 nights and also weakened her in Chapter 125 .

Also as she fought Milim for 3 days and 3 nights she may get "possibly FTL Speed "

When Hinata fought the Hero, Ruminas was also in the middle of a fight.

By the order of Clayman, Milim invaded.

Or rather than an order, it was a suggestion.

Clayman’s cajolery was based on the advice from Yuuki that Rimuru’s death was because of Ruminas’s incitement.

Deceived by those words, Milim raged.

With Milim as the opponent, Ruminas was at disadvantage. She would be defeated by Milim after fighting for 3 days and 3 nights.


However Milim can’t be said to have been left unscathed, she would be killed in her weakened state by the awakened HeroChloe under Yuuki’s order.

Agree :2(Tempest dragon 6 ,Diablo )
Disagree : 2(Catpija ,Thunderian)

 

[Tempestdragon6]

I never knew this existed

 

[donegbe]

I think ruminas is kinda underrated
Just gonna stick to the thread

 

[Diablo_]

I never knew this existed

What's your opinion on this ?

 

[Tempestdragon6]

She can be 3a

 

[Diablo_]

She can be 3a

Thank you .

 

[Catpija]

How do you know its not by hax when Ruminas always use it in a fight

 

[Lesser_Goddess_Alexia]

How do you know its not by hax when Ruminas always use it in a fight

Right

What's more, it happened in another timeline

 

[Diablo_]

Right

What's more, it happened in another timeline

How do you know its not by hax when Ruminas always use it in a fight

This was discussed before and got rejected for the same reasons .Okay then ...pointless to argue here.

 

[Peak]

I find it strange that a continental being can hold a universal being for 3 days and 3 nights, the difference is too absurd, what kind of hax could Ruminas use to cover this difference? And isn't Ruminas from the current timeline stronger than that from other timelines?

 

[Catpija]

I find it strange that a continental being can hold a universal being for 3 days and 3 nights, the difference is too absurd, what kind of hax could Ruminas use to cover this difference? And isn't Ruminas from the current timeline stronger than that from other timelines?

death and life hax iirc, maybe Milim tanked the death manipulation but at the cost of being weaker. Ruminas probably could also revive herself continuously

 

[Peak]

death and life hax iirc, maybe Milim tanked the death manipulation but at the cost of being weaker. Ruminas probably could also revive herself continuously

Ruminas in other timelines probably didn't even have ultimate skill, right? And we don't know how she really fought, whether she was using hax or not, I think a "probable 3-A" would be good but as everyone disagrees so there's not much to do

 

[Catpija]

Ruminas in other timelines probably didn't even have ultimate skill, right? And we don't know how she really fought, whether she was using hax or not

The thing is, Ruminas always shown to rely on her skill, she not the type to fight close combat with sword or hand to hand

 

[Peak]

The thing is, Ruminas always shown to rely on her skill, she not the type to fight close combat with sword or hand to hand

well that's true so it's ok

 

[091Franky]

It is just fuse being inconsistent

 

[Diablo_]

The thing is, Ruminas always shown to rely on her skill, she not the type to fight close combat with sword or hand to hand

Well most of the fights in Tensura are hax based .

How can Diablo or Diablo ,rZegion and benimaru be 3-A from a mere statement that 3 guys of his level /they can hold milim/have chance to defeat Chloe ?

That can be because of hax too .

And Shion is 3-A from a single statement while the Trio aren't despite being able to fight kondou and Damrada ?

 

[Catpija]

How can Diablo or Diablo ,rZegion and benimaru be 3-A from a mere statement that 3 guys of his level /they can hold milim/have chance to defeat Chloe ?

thats why none of them will be 3A

eh, i mean thats not the only reason they are 3A, plus they don't depend on hax, but are capable on close combat too

And Shion is 3-A from a single statement

a single statement from a credible source that didnt betray the consistent scaling chain

while the Trio aren't despite being able to fight kondou and Damrada ?

Kondou and Damrada isnt 3A, unless you are talking about judgement bullet

 

[Diablo_]

It is just fuse being inconsistent

thats why none of them will be 3A

eh, i mean thats not the only reason they are 3A, plus they don't depend on hax, but are capable on close combat too

a single statement from a credible source that didnt betray the consistent scaling chain


Kondou and Damrada isnt 3A, unless you are talking about judgement bullet

How about Kumara .None of her pre time skip or even post time skip feats show that she is anywhere near Diablo's level but suddenly she jumped to 3-A with a single statement .

the only one who has other reasons apart from those are Diablo. Zegion and Benimaru just chain scales .

 

[Peak]

How about Kumara .None of her pre time skip or even post time skip feats show that she is anywhere near Diablo's level but suddenly she jumped to 3-A with a single statement .

the only one who has other reasons apart from those are Diablo. Zegion and Benimaru just chain scales .

well that's true, having this level of tier jump is not surprising, is it right not Ruminas to also get the upgrade or the others who are not qualified enough to get downgraded? I doubt Kumara is stronger than Ruminas

 

[Catpija]

How about Kumara .None of her pre time skip or even post time skip feats show that she is anywhere near Diablo's level but suddenly she jumped to 3-A with a single statement .

thats why she get possibly

 

[Catpija]

Also don't try to compare Ruminas to other character when Ruminas is literally the only character to rely with a hax that will work regardless of physical strength. she can be dog-walked by everyone in terms of close-combat, and to add it more, she never try to choose to fight with physical strength in any fight.

This is the wall that differentiates them

 

[Diablo_]

thats why she get possibly

So Ruminas can't get "possibly" key ?

Also don't try to compare Ruminas to other character when Ruminas is literally the only character to rely with a hax that will work regardless of physical strength. she can be dog-walked by everyone in terms of close-combat, and to add it more, she never try to choose to fight with physical strength in any fight.

This is the wall that differentiates them

I don't think tiers are determined by just physical combat

 

[Diablo_]

What I am trying to get at is just the fact that Ruminas being able to fight milim for 3 days and 3 nights is a better candidate for 3-A rather than existing single statement 3-A title holders .

It's absurd I don't think being a 6-A herself she could survive 3 days and 3 nights fighting a 3-A with just hax .

Even if she isn't getting a tier boost she should at least get speed boost to "FTL" .Now don't say we don't know if Milim was FTL is other timeline .

 

[Catpija]

I don't think tiers are determined by just physical combat

You're missing the point, and i'm tired of saying the same thing again and again so please read it carefully

 

[Catpija]

Alright, this is the last time, you better get what i'm trying to say

What I am trying to get at is just the fact that Ruminas being able to fight milim for 3 days and 3 nights is a better candidate for 3-A rather than existing single statement 3-A title holders .

•Happens at alternate timeline
•Canonly always used hax

It's absurd I don't think being a 6-A herself she could survive 3 days and 3 nights fighting a 3-A with just hax .

you can actually, Rimuru literally defeated a 3A dragon using Beelzebuth. in fact hax is the only logical explanation than Ruminas herself is being comparable to Milim.

I don't think tiers are determined by just physical combat

And i don't think you can get X tier by death haxing X level durability character. i was talking about physical because Ruminas whole arsenal is literally death and life hax, there's nothing else, except for physical combat, even i'm not sure if she's capable on that.

Even if she isn't getting a tier boost she should at least get speed boost to "FTL" .Now don't say we don't know if Milim was FTL is other timeline .

eh, possibly FTL is fine with me

 

[Tempestdragon6]

Agree with 3a ruminas by a hax

 

[Diablo_]

So I am going for the speed upgrade here .Hopefully everyone agrees with it .

(Leon may upscale as it was stated that He was able to move at near Light speed when he was weakened . The weakening part was emphasized there a bit )

 

[Peak]

Agree with 3a ruminas by a hax

but hax does not give AP

 

[Peak]

So I am going for the speed upgrade here .Hopefully everyone agrees with it .

(Leon may upscale as it was stated that He was able to move at near Light speed when he was weakened . The weakening part was emphasized there a bit )

Was Leon superior to Rimuru at that time? I remember Thunderian sending a scan where Rimuru says he can't pass the speed of light

 

[Diablo_]

Was Leon superior to Rimuru at that time? I remember Thunderian sending a scan where Rimuru says he can't pass the speed of light

Then only Ruminas will get "Possibly FTL" .
I'll cheek if Leon can get speed upgrade later

 

[Diablo_]

Bump

 

[FallenMaou2234]

but hax does not give AP

There's several characters on this wiki that possess separate tiers based on Hax abilities so I don't think this is a problem tbh