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Uh, in the second game, he beat Vader by pumping a **** ton of lightning into him. That's pretty different.
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...No? He took a solid five seconds to charge up. Vader had all the time he'd need to get defenses up. Plus they were trading blows for nearly 30 minutes prior.LordWhis said:So he short circuited his life support systems- even less evidence for scaling. Nonetheless either way he caught Vader off guard while his force defences were likely down or at least lowered.
The current assumption for Star Wars profiles is that lightsabers are enhanced with the force by the user. So GM Luke's ligjtsaber will do more damage than Padawan Ahsoka's lightsaber.Adem Warlock69 said:Also Shouldn't Grievous have 4-B durability for tanking lightsaber attacks? Because they cut 4-Bs?
Dooku and Yoda were trading blows for a long time too. And again lightning short circuits Vader's life support systems as has been proven time and time again. It should not scale to his dura at all. Also I'd argue Starkiller amped himself by using the pillars, Vader easily ragdolled him before he used the pillars.The Wright Way said:...No? He took a solid five seconds to charge up. Vader had all the time he'd need to get defenses up. Plus they were trading blows for nearly 30 minutes prior.LordWhis said:So he short circuited his life support systems- even less evidence for scaling. Nonetheless either way he caught Vader off guard while his force defences were likely down or at least lowered.
He scales above Vitiate who in turn is likely stronger then the 4-B Valley of the JediZephyrosOmega said:uh... doesn't Sidious just scale above large star stuff? What's his AP scaling from to be massively above baseline???
Adem Warlock69 said:there's some dooku stuff like Yoda expressing some difficulty at reflecting his lightning, despite being stronger.
and this
Furthermore, Count Dooku himself had to be watched. It was in the nature of the Sith Rule of Two that the apprentice would seek to eventually overthrow their master, and Dooku's powers grew noticeably during the Clone Wars. Palpatine didn't just have to protect the Sith plan - he also had to protect himself.
Shouldn't he be " "Dooku Tier", 4-B with Vaapad"Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:ROTS Mace Windu matched Sidious.
This is Lorenzo's suggestion.Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:Mace Windu should have keys. TPM Mace Windu was stated to be comparable to Jedi Master Dooku, both far superior to the average Jedi Master. Sith Dooku is stronger than Jedi Dooku, as Yoda said. AOTC Mace Windu fought AOTC Dooku, who kinda held his own against Yoda. There are many quotes in both Canon and Legends saying Dooku is nearly comparable to Yoda, you can refer to my discussion with ByAsura and Lorenzo. He should be either High 4-C via downscaling or simply Unknown if we want to avoid controversy imo.
He never slipped out of Vaapad against Sidious though.Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:According to the RotS novelization he was still able to hold his own against Sidious when he slipped out of Vapaad.
His instant's distraction cost him: a dark surge of the Force nearly blew him right out of the gap he had just cut. Only a des-perate Force-push of his own altered his path enough that he slammed into a stanchion instead of plunging half a kilometer from the ledge outside. He bounced off and the Force cleared his head and once again he gave himself to Vaapad. |
Vaapad is as aggressive and powerful as its namesake, but its power comes at great risk: immersion in Vaapad opens the gates that restrain one's inner darkness. To use Vaapad, a Jedi must allow himself to enjoy the fight; he must give himself over to the thrill of battle. The rush of winning. Vaapad is a path that leads through the penumbra of the dark side. |