Sherlock Holmes VS James Moriarty

[Sergeant_Hypocrite]

Sherlock Holmes (BBC) VS James Moriarty (Movie)

Both are 10-A (no guns or explosives here, just good old-fashioned fist fight)

Speed Equalized

Sherlock Holmes:

James Moriarty: 7 (MrKerf, Grandlewon, Mariogoods, ZoroNotZolo, Oleggator, Da Lunge Fish, Popted2)

Inconclusive:

 

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[Grandlewon]

Sherlock himself have said, that Moriarty would win in physical combat.

Edit: Oops, these Sherlock and Moriarty are from different versions.

 

[MrKerf]

Hmm.
Sherlock has faster reaction.
Moriarty has (iirc at least) much better hand-to-hand skills.
Otherwise they're even.
Although I don't think his reaction ever helped him in a combat, so I'll vote Moriarty.

 

[Grandlewon]

Moriarty FRA

 

[Sergeant_Hypocrite]

Sherlock:

Moriarty: 2 (MrKerf, Grandlewon)

Incon:

 

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[Mariogoods]

I vote to Moriarty. It is a close one. Moriarty has the Analytical Prediction to roughly match Sherlock's reaction. Also, as long as the movie version and 2009 version follows the set (at least the set of their hand-to-hand combat level) from the SH series, Moriarty has advantage in this.

 

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[Da_Lunge_Fish]

I vote Sherlock via him being simply stronger. Breaking a coffin could even possibly be 9-C

 

[FinePoint]

I vote Sherlock via him being simply stronger. Breaking a coffin could even possibly be 9-C

To me this is more like a Garou Vs Tanktop situation. Even if Sherlock is stronger, I think Moriarty's superior skill should clutch him the victory.

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

To me this is more like a Garou Vs Tanktop situation. Even if Sherlock is stronger, I think Moriarty's superior skill should clutch him the victory.

I mean I'm pretty sure Sherlock is too strong here

 

[FinePoint]

I mean I'm pretty sure Sherlock is too strong here

They're both Athletic. Could you give me some actual numbers?

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

They're both Athletic. Could you give me some actual numbers?

Busting a wooden coffin is better than anything Moriarty did

 

[MrKerf]

This feat was never calculated, it appeares. Still, since they both are athletic, the absolute maximum difference would be 200 joules of energy, which still would probably not be enough to cover skill difference.
That's ignoring the fact that even an average boxer should be able to replicate such feat, let alone "Boxing Champion of Cambridge".

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

This feat was never calculated, it appeares. Still, since they both are athletic, the absolute maximum difference would be 200 joules of energy, which still would probably not be enough to cover skill difference.
That's ignoring the fact that even an average boxer should be able to replicate such feat, let alone "Boxing Champion of Cambridge".

It's the absolute minimum, bit maximum. I doubt a boxer could break a coffin

 

[MrKerf]

Well, even if he couldn't, average boxer's punch (according to Google) is 1200 - 1700 psi (which is 135 -192 joules) which is again, only for an average boxer. That makes the theoretical difference in strength even more insignificant.

 

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[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Well, even if he couldn't, average boxer's punch (according to Google) is 1200 - 1700 psi (which is 135 -192 joules) which is again, only for an average boxer. That makes the theoretical difference in strength even more insignificant.

I really doubt that could bust a coffin

 

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[FinePoint]

I really doubt that could bust a coffin

If you're not going to provide any numbers, I can't really take this statement with much weight.

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

If you're not going to provide any numbers, I can't really take this statement with much weight.

Breaking a freaking door is street tier, let alone a large coffin

 

[FinePoint]

Breaking a freaking door is street tier, let alone a large coffin

Could you post a scan of the coffin breaking at least?

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Could you post a scan of the coffin breaking at least?

 

[FinePoint]

Is there any indication of what that coffin is made of?

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Is there any indication of what that coffin is made of?

Looks wooden

 

[FinePoint]

Looks wooden

I know that much lol, the type of wood changes its strength tremendously. Moriarty scales above Sherlock in his verse who broke a man's ribs with two punches. Unless it's a rather strong wood I don't see the strength difference being big enough for Sherlock to get past the massive skill difference.