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The base (example, the legs) were made of wood, the rest is made of glass, so I don’t think it’s Wall level.
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They still count. Breaking glass-tables can be calced somewhat to Wall level. She fragmented the glass circle of the table and wooden legs, which I believe are beyond the maximum threshold of human capabilities.
We also have someone like Roman Bridger, who snapped a wooden table in two by falling on it. Though, this wouldn't be Wall level since you must destroy the entirety of the table via fragmentation or other energy value.
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Call me crazy, but I think Jill should have Limited Type 2 Immortality.
She survived having her head fried by a defibrillator wielding 360 joules of electricity with no damage. I did some research this is very fatal to humans and would fry their brains and kill them instantly.
She survived having her head fried by a defibrillator wielding 360 joules of electricity with no damage. I did some research this is very fatal to humans and would fry their brains and kill them instantly.
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How fatal? Source?
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I asked ChatGPT.
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Human bodies get defibrillated with as much as 360 J in hospitals all the time which usually is the max amount to save a life, plus she didn't have "no damage", she collapsed to the floor for about 30 seconds with smoke emitting off her and a bloodied nose.
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Yeah, but not to the head. Defibrillators are meant to be used to restore normal rhythms of the heart during cardiac emergencies. You can suffer major burns and neurological damage if hit at the head. The damage is minimal at best, that attack should've theoretically fried her brain and killed her. Despite this, she stood up shortly after.
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... ChatGPT? Really?
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You can't really find stuff about getting hit in the head with a defibrillator.
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Chat GPT should only be for ideas and other things. It's not meant to be a credible source. How do we know it's not making up false info?
Not to mention the site of the ai itself obviously states this risk
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I asked for it to search the web and provide sources of the harm of defibrillators, their effects, etc.
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Why not do the work than the Ai? And which source does it state? I've had the ai give me false info before, so how do we know the source of gave us is real?
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ChatGPT is not a credible sorce at all, it gives super inaccurate information all the time
Probably better to make your own arguments than rely on AI for them
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Someone has edited the profiles and added a plus to the Street level values, even though the feat is 4000j-ish and Street+ starts at 7000j-ish
Edit: Turns out the issue isn't the +, it's that the value is incorrect on the profile itself. They scale to Roman, so DOES have a Street+ feat, but it's listed as 4000j-ish on the profiles
Edit: Turns out the issue isn't the +, it's that the value is incorrect on the profile itself. They scale to Roman, so DOES have a Street+ feat, but it's listed as 4000j-ish on the profiles
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i think someone should make calcs on the following feats that could possibly further solidify the street+ ranges (or even wall?) for the scream characters.
quinn throws a large muscular man through a bookshelf which is mostly made out of wood
roman fragments a fully wooden chair agaisnt mark kincaid (iffy on this one although i noticed at the end scene of scream 3 mark has a cast on indicating he broke his arm + roman broke the chair, you could add both energys together)
amber gets shot and flies through a large glass window and also snaps the wooden boards off
quinn throws a large muscular man through a bookshelf which is mostly made out of wood
roman fragments a fully wooden chair agaisnt mark kincaid (iffy on this one although i noticed at the end scene of scream 3 mark has a cast on indicating he broke his arm + roman broke the chair, you could add both energys together)
amber gets shot and flies through a large glass window and also snaps the wooden boards off
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I always thought this feat was at least Street Level+.
Also, while not AP, this is a very interesting Durability feat. Wayne Bailey fell from the second story floor where he crashed into a large table made of entirely wood and a glass top, fragmenting it. Destroying these types of tables needs Wall Level attacks.
So.. that means whoever can harm Wayne Bailey (who has Wall Level durability) is a solid Wall Level.
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second feat i agree, unfortunately the first feat falls under the hitchens fallacy as we cant prove if that window was a prop or not (considering its a movie set)
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I might create a Scream CRT. Some things I'll be addressing:
Mrs. Loomis killed Cici Cooper, so the feats should be in her profile: Throwing Cici from a balcony and through a glass door.
Reason why I think Mrs. Loomis killed Cici: How Cici was Stabbed. How Randy was stabbed. Mrs. Loomis admitted to killing Randy.
Roman Travel Speed debunk. My reason for this is because Scream 3's original script was supposed to have a second killer: Angelina Tyler. Half the scenes shot were shot with the idea that there were gonna be two Ghostface killers present. This scene here just makes it the most obvious. Sidney escapes Ghostface and we clearly see him behind her, then another Ghostface just jumps out the closet? Yeah no. Ghostface cannot teleport, and as I said, shot with the idea that there were 2 killers present. For some reason the crew decided to not reshoot the scenes.
Mrs. Loomis killed Cici Cooper, so the feats should be in her profile: Throwing Cici from a balcony and through a glass door.
Reason why I think Mrs. Loomis killed Cici: How Cici was Stabbed. How Randy was stabbed. Mrs. Loomis admitted to killing Randy.
Roman Travel Speed debunk. My reason for this is because Scream 3's original script was supposed to have a second killer: Angelina Tyler. Half the scenes shot were shot with the idea that there were gonna be two Ghostface killers present. This scene here just makes it the most obvious. Sidney escapes Ghostface and we clearly see him behind her, then another Ghostface just jumps out the closet? Yeah no. Ghostface cannot teleport, and as I said, shot with the idea that there were 2 killers present. For some reason the crew decided to not reshoot the scenes.
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We usually treat feats performed by an unknown Ghostface as being a possibly for both
Kind of a moot point since there is no second killer in the final film, making this all Roman. The door thing is weird though, most likely some kind of booby trap.
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I have issues with that, but if that's the case, alright.
Half the scenes of the movie were shot with the idea that there were going to be 2 killers. They didn't reshoot the scenes for some reason and they of course scrapped the concept of 2 Ghostfaces by the end of the movie. The scene I sent above was with 2 Ghostfaces (obviously)
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i mean its not rlly a debunk as, the canon final version is just roman. so nothing to change there, we just have to assume roman did everything on his own canonically. and it wasnt teleportation more logically he looped around back or something.
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Yeah, Roman is the canonical "sole" killer. But this scene specifically was shot with the intent that there were 2 killers present, this scene makes it most obvious. You can search "Scream 3 - Second Killer" if you wish to know more. I doubt he could loop behind it, we don't even know if that closet can be entered that way. By the time Sid ran to the door, Ghostface seemingly had just gotten up. He wouldn't have possibly made it there with such speed, and we also don't know if that room had a back entrance, so i'm iffy on this claim.
Here if you want more proof: Angelina Tyler 2nd Killer.
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im well aware of the movies original two killers, and obviously the scene was shot intended for two ghostfaces, but since the final version is soley roman. he did everything on his own canonically. also his main feat for justifying peak human travel speed isnt this feat and rather the jennifer feat.
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I still think it should be taken into consideration that this scene involves 2 Ghostfaces and should be removed from his profile. The fact this isn't his main travel speed feat makes it even more minor of a debunk.
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it involves 2 ghostfaces in the old script. but in the final its just one. you cant rlly work around it i mean its canonically just roman. simply. (last msg regarding this discussion for me)
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What is with the yapping of a second killer? We can't confirm or deny there was a second killer in Scream 3 and we have plety of feats in fiction where characters do stuff beyond science or realisticness.
Sure, Scream is more realistic, though... If a content is scrapped in the final movie, then it's made to be noncanon. If the second killer was there, she would've stubbornly revealed her identity at the end of the movie like Roman did.
Sure, Scream is more realistic, though... If a content is scrapped in the final movie, then it's made to be noncanon. If the second killer was there, she would've stubbornly revealed her identity at the end of the movie like Roman did.
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yea i agree. roman did this feat 100% canonically
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Well, like I said, half the scenes of the movie were shot with the idea that there were two killers were present on the set. I explained above why Roman running this distance.. realistically, is not possible. Scream 3 makes it evident the characters rip holes through the space-time continuum
Low 2-C Scream is real
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Then why do we have scream characters at 9-B? If anything, that rating shouldn't be there since 9-B is meant to be above peak humans. Not to mention Roman breaking space and time doesn't explain the second killer not being present in the final act.
Is it just me, or is this not the first time a character seemingly broke physics itself and still has an athletic human speed or other realistic rating? Cuz Mickey (yes, I did see the 2nd movie, unlike most of the movies) looped around a building an broke immersion for future viewers. Or that the killers seemingly have high physical superiority to the protags until the final act?
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A debunk isnt needed, unless theres proof there is infact a second killer in the final version of the movie. Other than that, Roman did everything himself.
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It would need a calc before we assume a rating, and glass calculations are currently being discussed as of now, also it broke off a pretty small piece of wood so I doubt it would be Wall.
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