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Sayori (DDLC) Vs Chara (Undertale)

You can't really decide weather Sayore can or cannot delete save files.

Not that it changes much, Chara could do that too, and it can actually survive it.
 
Naw I made it a rule to say she should not have it but might as well change it
 
Please don't bump in a few minutes. There is no rule for it, but most of the time it's advised to wait at least a few hours.
 
K a quick conversation starter for sure wins (also by hax) - Sayori Script (Probably) GG or maybe a stomp Even though chara can save and load, Sayori can erase them
 
I understand that it is an in-game render, but is that image for Sayori... appropriate to include?
 
Chara - EE and Survive EE, Has Soul hax, A lot of immortalility types Sayori - Has Plot Manip, Has Mind hax, Has EE I think this is an Incon or sayori win via Scrip and Mind Hax
 
DarkGrath said:
I understand that it is an in-game render, but is that image for Sayori... appropriate to include?
This was the best I could find at that time.
 
I'm voting incon. Seems both sides could 1-shot.

How effective is Sayori's plot manip? I remember that Monika couldn't change everything too drasticly, more just influence things.
 
It is not appropriate. I deleted it.
 
No problem. I will unsubscribe to this thread now.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
You can't really decide weather Sayore can or cannot delete save files.
Not that it changes much, Chara could do that too, and it can actually survive it.
Sayori should be able to survive it too scaling from Monika. There's no reason to assume she couldn't if Monika could (which she did).
 
Except the part where Mónika literally killed her with it?

Mónika is the only one left capable of responding after the game's erasure.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Except the part where Mónika literally killed her with it?
Mónika is the only one left capable of responding after the game's erasure.
Monika didn't kill Sayori. Monika literally tells you at the end that she never actually deleted anyone - including the characters you saw being "deleted". The only character who actually gets deleted is Monika and she survives it, likely due to her Club President hax, which Sayori has in this instance.
 
That is some mighty good way to ignore context.

First of all, I was talking of the final deletion. There, she does erase everything, herself included, and directly undoes any attempts to re-make the others by deleting them again. Sayori, despite going mad, does not appear at such a point.

Secondly, she made backups. That does not mean they would have survived, or else characters like Yuri and Sayori would have simply appeared and done their obsessive thing regardless.
 
"First of all, I was talking of the final deletion."

Fine, but you should probably practice being more specific rather than blatantly assuming someone's "ignoring context". There's a clear difference between misunderstanding something and ignoring something.

"Sayori, despite going mad, does not appear at such a point."

Practically everything on Sayori's profile is literally just taking things that Monika did, transfering it over to Sayori, and then saying Sayori has those powers because of scaling.

"Secondly, she made backups."

Citation needed.

"That does not mean they would have survived, or else characters like Yuri and Sayori would have simply appeared and done their obsessive thing regardless."

For all the talk about ignoring context you seem to be missing the clear similarities between Monika and Sayori in that they both acted as president of the literature club, whereas neither Yuri nor Natsuki did. It's made blatantly clear that the reason Sayori knew about everything was because she took over as president.
 
Her scaling to those abilities does not mean she gains something she specifically showed not to have. Someone becomes president when the previous one goes "missing, because the plot just puts another one in place.

And again, all you have to say that she resists is her scaling to many of Monika's abilities, and you didn't even bother to give a response to why she doesn't even say anything after Monika erases stuff.
 
Chara can just nuke the entire game to kill Sayori, since she canonicaly died from the game being erased
 
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