Sasuke Uchiha vs Alakazam

[Sniper670]

EMS Sasuke vs Mega Alakazam

Speed Equalized, and with Jūgo’s Cursed Seal restricted

They start off 20 meters from each other

EMS Sasuke:

Mega Alakazam:

Inconclusive:

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

AP Difference?

 

[Sniper670]

AP Difference?

I'm using their 6-C versions

 

[M_Animefan]

Alkazam negs quite easily. He negates resistances so sasukes done for

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Alkazam negs quite easily. He negates resistances so sasukes done for

It only works on Dark types, and Sasuke has layers and 3-A mindhax due to scaling to the size of the mental world Tsukuyomi creates

 

[M_Animefan]

It only works on Dark types, and Sasuke has layers and 3-A mindhax due to scaling to the size of the mental world Tsukuyomi creates

Oh damn so this is a stomp in Sasukes favor.

 

[Nierre]

3-A mindhax due to scaling to the size of the mental world Tsukuyomi creates

 

[M_Animefan]

Same thought: since when is Tsokoyumi 3A mind hax? :/

 

[Sniper670]

I was just as confused. I'm waiting for more input on that as well

 

[XXKINGXX69]

An inner hell as eternal as Heaven and Earth. The grip held onto the principles of all creation thoroughly annihilates one’s heart and soul!! The ultimate doujutsu made possible only by Mangekyou Sharingan. Amidst the insight and hypnosis possessed by Sharingan, is a supreme genjutsu, born from the aforementioned hypnosis: Tsukuyomi. Originally, people on the face of the Earth live bound by limitations like time, gravity, and space; and how people exert their abilities within those restrictions is what separates the victors from the vanquished. But in the mental world where the caster drags their opponent, the Tsukuyomi jutsu gives them control over those very limitations! Namely, this means inside the genjutsu, the physical world’s common sense is completely irrelevant and opposing the caster is impossible. Somebody caught into the Tsukuyomi find themselves into a strange world of infinity, their fate entirely lying inside the caster’s hands. Some time, they will undergo the torments of Hell, and some other time, they will be repeatedly shown a horrendous, hellish picture of agony and mayhem, with no idea of when either of those will end. As a result, the poor prisoner can only wait until the collapse of their psyches…!! Even a body made of iron or the speed of light are powerless before this jutsu, which is the reason why it is feared as the most powerful. Sharingan is the Kekkei Genkai of the clan labelled as the most powerful, the Uchiha Clan. Even among those who have Sharingan, that jutsu cannot be operated without having Mangekyou, which is its culminating point. Concurrently, the only ones who can defeat Tsukuyomi are Sharingan possessors… And even then, exclusively the elite shinobi who have reached particularly high degrees of skillfulness. Once could say this is truly a God-given jutsu solely allowed to those blessed with Uchiha blood and prodigious aptitudes. The moment the adversary is exposed to Mangekyou Sharingan, a strange realm as they’ve never seen before extends before their eyes. In there, the world’s principles themselves obey the caster’s beck and call. Since attacks in the spiritual realm have no power to physically wound or kill, it bestows an unfathomable amount of mental damage. Only those of Uchiha blood… Does it mean only Sasuke has a chance to break a Tsukuyomi? The phenomena that happen inside of the mental realm are entirely the caster’s to command. Which is to say, the images shown or the actions taken can be changed according to the opponent in order to yield maximum efficiency.

I was just as confused. I'm waiting for more input on that as well

Same thought: since when is Tsokoyumi 3A mind hax? :/

Probably high 3-A because of "as eternal as heaven and earth"

 

[M_Animefan]

An inner hell as eternal as Heaven and Earth. The grip held onto the principles of all creation thoroughly annihilates one’s heart and soul!! The ultimate doujutsu made possible only by Mangekyou Sharingan. Amidst the insight and hypnosis possessed by Sharingan, is a supreme genjutsu, born from the aforementioned hypnosis: Tsukuyomi. Originally, people on the face of the Earth live bound by limitations like time, gravity, and space; and how people exert their abilities within those restrictions is what separates the victors from the vanquished. But in the mental world where the caster drags their opponent, the Tsukuyomi jutsu gives them control over those very limitations! Namely, this means inside the genjutsu, the physical world’s common sense is completely irrelevant and opposing the caster is impossible. Somebody caught into the Tsukuyomi find themselves into a strange world of infinity, their fate entirely lying inside the caster’s hands. Some time, they will undergo the torments of Hell, and some other time, they will be repeatedly shown a horrendous, hellish picture of agony and mayhem, with no idea of when either of those will end. As a result, the poor prisoner can only wait until the collapse of their psyches…!! Even a body made of iron or the speed of light are powerless before this jutsu, which is the reason why it is feared as the most powerful. Sharingan is the Kekkei Genkai of the clan labelled as the most powerful, the Uchiha Clan. Even among those who have Sharingan, that jutsu cannot be operated without having Mangekyou, which is its culminating point. Concurrently, the only ones who can defeat Tsukuyomi are Sharingan possessors… And even then, exclusively the elite shinobi who have reached particularly high degrees of skillfulness. Once could say this is truly a God-given jutsu solely allowed to those blessed with Uchiha blood and prodigious aptitudes. The moment the adversary is exposed to Mangekyou Sharingan, a strange realm as they’ve never seen before extends before their eyes. In there, the world’s principles themselves obey the caster’s beck and call. Since attacks in the spiritual realm have no power to physically wound or kill, it bestows an unfathomable amount of mental damage. Only those of Uchiha blood… Does it mean only Sasuke has a chance to break a Tsukuyomi? The phenomena that happen inside of the mental realm are entirely the caster’s to command. Which is to say, the images shown or the actions taken can be changed according to the opponent in order to yield maximum efficiency.




Probably high 3-A because of "as eternal as heaven and earth"

But isn’t that just Hyperboling?

 

[XXKINGXX69]

But isn’t that just Hyperboling?

If we don't know if its hyperbole, then I think "possibly" is fine

 

[M_Animefan]

If we don't know if its hyperbole, then I think "possibly" is fine

But it just affected the earth itself: so 5B potency is what I agree with, now that we know about Otsutsuki residing in the same universe and they were not affected by it, plus the statement of being „Eternal as earth and Heaven“ and yet it didn’t effect the Dead=Edos shows that it’s not such a great „Mind Manipulation“.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

What?

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

3-A is still 3D, and we no longer treat a range as a potential mind hax unless there's a specific reason.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

3-A is still 3D, and we no longer treat a range as a potential mind hax unless there's a specific reason.

We treat size as potency too

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

What? potential mind hax treated by size???

 

[XXKINGXX69]

What? potential mind hax treated by size???

We always did, provided its quantifiable. Even with the changes, we treat things like higher dimensional mindhax as potency, which means size is fine too

 

[Sniper670]

We always did, provided its quantifiable. Even with the changes, we treat things like higher dimensional mindhax as potency, which means size is fine too

You make a point. But isn't it going to be passively reflected by Magic guard? I mean I had that in mind when I made the match so it's not as much of a stomp as it seems. Just saying.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

You make a point. But isn't it going to be passively reflected by Magic guard? I mean I had that in mind when I made the match so it's not as much of a stomp as it seems. Just saying.

Oh yeah thats fine, and Alakazam has better mindhax anyways

I vote Alakazam for random hax like teleportation for mobility and magic guard

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

We always did, provided its quantifiable. Even with the changes, we treat things like higher dimensional mindhax as potency, which means size is fine too

No, large size and higher dimensional existence are different things. large size if there is no additional dimension/spatial axis will not become a smurf or gain more potential hax, because smurf things can only be achieved through higher dimensional things described as reality>fiction.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

No, large size and higher dimensional existence are different things. large size if there is no additional dimension/spatial axis will not become a smurf or gain more potential hax, because smurf things can only be achieved through higher dimensional things described as reality>fiction.

I didn't say they were the same, I said the fact that we use higher dimensions as a form of potency proves we use size. Higher dimensional mindhax is more potent because its infinitely beyond lower dimensional in size

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

I didn't say they were the same, I said the fact that we use higher dimensions as a form of potency proves we use size. Higher dimensional mindhax is more potent because its infinitely beyond lower dimensional in size

Well yes but actually no, same dimension are same potential except can bypass layers of resistance.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Well yes but actually no, same dimension are same potential except can bypass layers of resistance.

Prove that

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

Prove that

That's explained in DontTalkDT's thread, but I can't find the thread