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Saitama VS Hulk (Sorry, this had to be done)

Phoenks said:
You just acknowleged me saying that due to him being bloodlusted, Time Travel would be an in-character move. It even says this on the note in his page, which I wrote, by the way.
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Yes
Phoenks said:
Saitama doesn't need to grow on par with Hulk, he just needs to grow a few times stronger and then one-hit KO Hulk in the past before he even got any amps.
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How much time would he need to grow until he surpasses Hulk?
Phoenks said:
Anyway, you didn't even bother to counter any of my other points.
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I answered every single comment that you send to me
 
So we are ignoring the green door and how Saitama has no way to counter that, even with his time manipulation? Lmao
 
Phoenks said:
Knockout is a win-condition.
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Bet.

Phoenks said:
He already starts with an AP advantage. It'd take seconds at most for him to become multiple times stronger and just KO Hulk back in time.
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Saitama doesn't have the AP advantage.

And time manipulation is pretty overhyped here since he needs to concentrate, something that Hulk won't let him have it. Saitama can try to immediately run away and create enough distance, but Hulk will run after him for sure, Saitama won't be able to focus when there's a gigantic green gorilla chasing him down, Hulk can also hold Saitama down with his superior LS. And since Hulk likely grows faster than Saitama...

Saitama is getting, at best, incon; otherwise, this seems like a Hulk W.
 
Green Door is a non factor. If Saitama grows high enough-he turns Hulk into a paste, which would take months to years to regenerate from.

I think we need to clarify what exactly “knowledge of powers” is. Not really a common term, unlike prior knowledge.
 
Tomfer said:
Saitama doesn't have the AP advantage.
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He does. 72 ZettaFoe.



Tomfer said:
And time manipulation is pretty overhyped here since he needs to concentrate, something that Hulk won't let him have it. Saitama can try to immediately run away and create enough distance, but Hulk will run after him for sure, Saitama won't be able to focus when there's a gigantic green gorilla chasing him down, Hulk can also hold Saitama down with his superior LS. And since Hulk likely grows faster than Saitama...
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Why are you acting like concentration isn't simple as hell. He just actively tries to time travel and that's it. It doesn't take some long, strenuous effort.

Saitama isn't going to get held down and Hulk growing faster really doesn't matter. Time travel counters all.
 
Oh yeah due to the multipliers Saitama actually holds a one-shot advantage over Hulk from the beginning, almost forgot about that.
 
Phoenks said:
Why are you acting like concentration isn't simple as hell. He just actively tries to time travel and that's it. It doesn't take some long, strenuous effort.

Saitama isn't going to get held down and Hulk growing faster really doesn't matter. Time travel counters all.
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The ONLY time he uses that, he needed to get into position, make hand gestures, close his eyes and focus on his cells or something (and this is what I meant by concentrating) and then time travel. It takes a sequence of steps in order to pull off the time travel, I did not say that it takes "some long, strenuous effort."
 
Tomfer said:
The ONLY time he uses that, he needed to get into position, make hand gestures, close his eyes and focus on his cells or something (and this is what I meant by concentrating) and then time travel. It takes a sequence of steps in order to pull off the time travel, I did not say that it takes "some long, strenuous effort."
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You're acting like getting into position and focusing is some insanely hard feat to pull off. It's not.

Do you have any other argumentS?
 
Tomfer said:
Bro, are we having the same conversation? I just said I did NOT said that, I said it requires time, something that Hulk won't give. That's all.
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It does not take as long as you think it does. The only reason it even took as long as it did that time was due to him having to learn it. If he already has it mastered, it can be done with ease, especially while he's bloodlusted. Saitama is practically an Extraordinary Genius in that state and could definitely find the timing required to activate the ability. You're simply overestimating the amount of time the action would take.

I am asking you to provide other arguments as so far I feel I've pretty much disputed every reason for Hulk winning this match.

Saitama has a one-shot value AP advantage which enables him for an easy KO.
He has a massive skill advantage and could use martial arts techniques that'd get around any attacks Hulk could dish out at him.
He has the advantage of prior knowledge.
He has better time travel to counter any rage amp or growth that Hulk could go through.
Time Travel also prevents Saitama from losing as he'd always be able to merge with his past self before being killed by Hulk.
Time Travel attacks instantaneously land on the opponent, so his punch can't be avoided.
 
Phoenks said:
It does not take as long as you think it does. The only reason it even took as long as it did that time was due to him having to learn it. If he already has it mastered, it can be done with ease, especially while he's bloodlusted. Saitama is practically an Extraordinary Genius in that state and could definitely find the timing required to activate the ability. You're simply overestimating the amount of time the action would take.
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Do you have proof that such skill can be done like that if mastered? No? It's a headcanon then.
 
Tomfer said:
Do you have proof that such skill can be done like that if mastered? No? It's a headcanon then.
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Are you seriously going to degrade yourself into arguing that mastering a skill doesn't make it easier.

Please come back when you have something of substance to debate me about. This is jokes.
 
So, let me get this straight. I spent all that time convincing you guys that Saitama wins, just for the match to be changed because you finally realized Saitama wins and you don't want him to win.

The bias is actually insane. How is that even allowed?
 
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