Saint Seiya Upgrades (...again)

[Lina_Shields]

I'm pretty sure that with a Kamui 'effing Aphrodite could beat Cronus.

Are you sure about that? I remember reading Cronus being vastly stronger than Hades, and I think that was Hades in his true form.

 

[Akuto_Sai12]

She can't....when Cronus destroyed his hour glass thing in episode G which messed up all timelines while he wanted to destroy it all even Zeus was said to be not capable of doing anything.Idk where the multi universe Cronus spawns from he's likely much higher..

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

He didn't destroy all the timelines, but just one timeline.

 

[Akuto_Sai12]

Pretty sure when he destroyed his psammos adamas he was going to destroy everything and the world at some point didn't even have a past and future and all timelines intersected each other.Either way unsealed Titans are only slightly bellow Olympians in kamui anyone other than Zeus is not doing anything to Cronus.Though Zeus"s cosmos is ever expanding so he's likely reached a level of his own.

 

[The_Everlasting]

So... anyone else have an opinion on the Zeus, Typhon and Chronos things I mentioned above?

 

[Akuto_Sai12]

About that I agree with the chronos thing but it's probably best to use potentially 2-B for typhoon and Zeus

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

About that I agree with the chronos thing but it's probably best to use potentially 2-B for typhoon and Zeus

I think that this is Reasonable.

 

[QPower]

From what I've read, Athena could very well rival Medaka Kurokami.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

From what I've read, Athena could very well rival Medaka Kurokami.

Athena is too hax and fast for medaka to handle, athena stomps medaka i would say.

 

[QPower]

From what I've read, Athena could very well rival Medaka Kurokami.

Athena is too hax and fast for medaka to handle, athena stomps medaka i would say.

So thats AFTER the upgrades right?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

From what I've read, Athena could very well rival Medaka Kurokami.

Athena is too hax and fast for medaka to handle, athena stomps medaka i would say.

So thats AFTER the upgrades right?

Nope even before she could stomp, medaka is only ftl while athena is what in the quintillion or sextillion times ftl so the massive speed advantage would make her win but even if speed was equal athena is too hax she has time manipulation, probability manipulation, reality warping, soul manipulation etc and she can bypass durability.

 

[Lina_Shields]

Via power-scaling, it is a consensus that Zeus >= Typhon > Cronus > other Olympian Deities, correct?

I was wondering if the Olympians are stronger or weaker than the Titans in general.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Alright i'm back. So it seems that all of the SS pages have been updated with this, yeah?

Anything else we need to talk about that might be important enough to keep this open?

 

[QPower]

Via power-scaling, it is a consensus that Zeus >= Typhon > Cronus > other Olympian Deities, correct?
I was wondering if the Olympians are stronger or weaker than the Titans in general.

I thought Titans is evenly matched with the Olympians?

 

[QPower]

From what I've read, Athena could very well rival Medaka Kurokami.

Athena is too hax and fast for medaka to handle, athena stomps medaka i would say.

So thats AFTER the upgrades right?

Nope even before she could stomp, medaka is only ftl while athena is what in the quintillion or sextillion times ftl so the massive speed advantage would make her win but even if speed was equal athena is too hax she has time manipulation, probability manipulation, reality warping, soul manipulation etc and she can bypass durability.

Don't Medaka has hax aswell like Book Maker, All Fiction, Scar Dead etc.?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

From what i have seen lurking around the saint seiya pages titans>olympians except for zeus. Olympians for the most part are all universe+ while from the titans profiles i saw they are usually multi-universe, but again from what i heard is that that is the olympians without their kamui armor and olmypians with kamui armour>titans? Someone correct me on that.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

From what i have seen lurking around the saint seiya pages titans>olympians except for zeus. Olympians for the most part are all universe+ while from the titans profiles i saw they are usually multi-universe, but again from what i heard is that that is the olympians without their kamui armor and olmypians with kamui armour>titans? Someone correct me on that.

The Titan pages are dated. Most of them are only Universal+ through feats.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@Matt ok but olympians with kamui>titans right?

 

[Akuto_Sai12]

@Celestial Pegasus

The Olympians with kamui are more or less equals with Olympians being slightly stronger.

The Titans in episode G are severely nerfed by the seals Zeus placed which are still in effect but also Pontos so they couldn't use much against the gold saints but somehow despite all that they still showcase universal feats

In the end pontos tells the Gold saints or a gold Saint that if the Titans were in their prime they could never hope to defeat them if I'm not mistaken.And Pontos absorbs all the powers of the Titans being the savage that he is and he gives their Dunamis(titans power) to Gaia.Once Gaia takes in all the dunamis they echo throughout the universes the Titans created.

Hope that helps

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@Celestial Pegasus
The Olympians with kamui are more or less equals with Olympians being slightly stronger.

The Titans in episode G are severely nerfed by the seals Zeus placed which are still in effect but also Pontos so they couldn't use much against the gold saints but somehow despite all that they still showcase universal feats

In the end pontos tells the Gold saints or a gold Saint that if the Titans were in their prime they could never hope to defeat them if I'm not mistaken.And Pontos absorbs all the powers of the Titans being the savage that he is and he gives their Dunamis(titans power) to Gaia.Once Gaia takes in all the dunamis they echo throughout the universes the Titans created.

Hope that helps

Oh, that helps a lot

 

[Akuto_Sai12]

Tbh the fact that it took all their dunamis and that when Pontos implanted them in Gaia that it echoed throughout their universes not even barring her own power should be clearly proper reasoning of Gaia"s At least 2-C power.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

This is off topic at this point but i will ask anyway, side note i think it might be good to have a saint seiya disscussion thread for these types of things as i am pretty interesting with the myth of the series and want to know more, has chaos been introduced or hinted at in saint seiya before? From my understanding of greek myth chaos was the first thing to exist out of which the primodial dieties came from.

 

[Akuto_Sai12]

He's been mentioned once as the first thing in existence yes iirc in a databook or flashback but he's described as nothingness

 

[MagiSinbad]

This is off topic at this point but i will ask anyway, side note i think it might be good to have a saint seiya disscussion thread for these types of things as i am pretty interesting with the myth of the series and want to know more, has chaos been introduced or hinted at in saint seiya before? From my understanding of greek myth chaos was the first thing to exist out of which the primodial dieties came from.

Nope, so far, Chronos was the first thing exist (as he was the one who caused the big bang that created the universe). Chaos has never been mentioned

Also, that would be a good idea, since Episode G Assassin is still on going, and we would probally get more feats from it.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Ok, and yea i think the discussion thread is a good idea as there are some things i would still like to ask

 

[Tivanenk]

Chaos was mentioned, but he isn't really much of a being but more of an essence. I don't know if it has a consciousness or not. It's kinda how like Tartarus is a thing and a realm at the same time.

 

[Victor2]

did yall made the saint seiya thread yet?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

This is off topic at this point but i will ask anyway, side note i think it might be good to have a saint seiya disscussion thread for these types of things as i am pretty interesting with the myth of the series and want to know more, has chaos been introduced or hinted at in saint seiya before? From my understanding of greek myth chaos was the first thing to exist out of which the primodial dieties came from.

Chaos has only been mentioned here and there, but we don't even know if it's a thing.

Also, depending on the version of Greek Mythology that's applied, Chronos and Ananke created Chaos / The Cosmic Egg

 

[Victor2]

in what chaos was mentioned?