Saint Seiya: Issue's with speed, and the results of it.

[TheUnshakableOne]

This is about Thanato's "Cross-Universal" attacks, and Poseidon sending the gold cloths. There is some issues here. Skip to the bottom to see a breif summary of my main point.

First the size of Elysium is stated to be infinite, by several sources. The anime describes it as being infinite. The new english translation manga describes it as being "endless." The old classic translations from the 1980's describes it as being "endless" as well . [warning low quality scan.]

This means Elysium has infinite distance, therefore Poseidon, and thanatos had to cross infinite distance with their abilities, correct??????


There is more however...

"Super Dimensional Space' is what separates Hell from Elysium[New english translations.]It is the border between universe's. [Old 1980's classic translations. ] Just upon entering it results in you being sucked into "another Universe." possibely even result in you being killed by the intense pressure. which was shown twice, iirrc. Within this space;time, and space are distorted . [Old translations.] Time, and space are constantly in flux . [new translations.]

Going further out from Elyisum and the super dimensional space.... Far before it..

The very entrances to the underworld, Yomotsu Hirasaka, is described twice as being eternal. First set of scans are from Saint Seiya Omega anime. Aria is in the world of the dead . Where she is stuck in eternal darkness . Then we have a guy from Next Dimension Manga, his name is Suikyo (probably spelled wrong.) whom was falling into Yomotsu Hirasaka, into the world of the dead. Where he described it as eternal darkness. "Will i float for eternity in this darkness? " I guess we could say those are a bit speculative, but Hades has yet another Infinite sized realm however with less scans lol.

This is from Portuguese translations [Scan is here .] This is what we need to take note of.

Percorri por um longo periodo. = I walked for a long time

Atravessei trevas que se alastravam pelo infinito.. = I went through darkness that spread through the infinite ..

I am not sure if any cross universal attacks happened from Tartarus to Living World Earth, but it shows Hades is in control of at least 2 infinite sized Universe's so Yomotsu Hirasaka being infinite sized shouldn't be a problem.

The Results....

If Elysium is infinite in size then that means anyone performing Cross-universal attacks from it, or to it would have to cross infinite distance. This would result in an infinite speed rating. Which then scales to many others.

The super dimensional space which comes just before Elysium, which both Thanatos, and Posiedon were shown to traverse through it with their attack speeds, has ever changing time, and distance. That should be immeasurable speed, at least infinite speed.

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

Like a wise man said once "├ë br é?"

 

[Elizhaa]

I think the OP is fine.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Matt

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

If Elysium is infinite in size then that means anyone performing Cross-universal attacks from it, or to it would have to cross infinite distance. This would result in an infinite speed rating. Which then scales to many others.

Sounds like Helios (God of War) speed feat

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

If Elysium is infinite in size then that means anyone performing Cross-universal attacks from it, or to it would have to cross infinite distance. This would result in an infinite speed rating. Which then scales to many others.
Sounds like Helios (God of War) speed feat

Elysium being Infinite in size is also on Hades saint seiya profile lol


Maybe saint seiya inspired god of war ƒæÇ

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

I mean there both Greek.

 

[Antvasima]

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[Antvasima]

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[Monarch_Laciel]

I know basically nothing of Saint Seiya, but unless the "cross universal" attack was sent from one border of Elysium to another, it could just be that while the universe was infinite, Thanatos was still a finite distance from his target.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Yeah, while Elysium is described as being infinite said size is irrelevant for things moving out of Elysium and into other realities or into Elysium.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Yeah, while Elysium is described as being infinite said size is irrelevant for things moving out of Elysium and into other realities or into Elysium.

hi matt! i have a question on a couple calc's too. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...oseidon_Telekinetically_Sends_the_Gold_Cloths

They are about the twin gods, and posiedon.

One of the twin Gods kill Pandora whom was at the edge of the "another dimension/Super Dimensional space." Posiedon had to send the Gold cloths through it.

There is a problem when calc'ing it. You can't get an accurate time frame, or distance with it because Time, and space areboth Distorted , and in constant flux . To cross it would be immeasurable speed, or at least infinite speed, due to the constant change in distance (Space) and time (Always changings)


This would also align with Athena's feats of [1] and [2]


This also aligns with Hades timeless void feats. Where his underworld exist outside of time starting past the 6th prison [3], and this wouldn't be the first time Hades has a timeless void. If we look at these translations of his sword [http://[https://imgur.com/a/3EL2c ].

Edit: that didn't edit as neatly as i want... and its not letting me tidy it up... i am sorry for the dis-organization here...