Ryu vs Sasuke

[TegamiBachi25]

This is Mu No Ken SFII-IV Ryu vs 8-B CS1 Land of Waves to Chunin Exams 8-B Sasuke. Speed is equalized and fight takes place in the Chunin Exams arena. Satsui No Hado is restricted

Ryu:

Sasuke:

Incon:

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Doesn't Sasuke just vaporize him with fireballs?

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Doesn't Sasuke just vaporize him with fireballs?

Shinku Hadoken and more skill than Sasuke

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Shinku Hadoken and more skill than Sasuke

I thought CS1 was a 5x amp on top of his stuff so he could just overpower the hadoken

Following ig

 

[TegamiBachi25]

I thought CS1 was a 5x amp on top of his stuff so he could just overpower the hadoken

Following ig

Ryu has the AP advantage and I don't even think Sasuke's Fireball has even enough heat. It doesn't have a heat calc as far as I can see, so Ryu's Shinku Hadouken would just null and go through it.

I don't think Curse Mark has a stated amp? It just says higher but there is no page detailing how much of an amp it is. I thought it was vaguely above 18.58 tons from his base(?)

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Ryu has the AP advantage

ik I just thought CSM 1 had a stated amp somewhere but nvm

and I don't even think Sasuke's Fireball has even enough heat. It doesn't have a heat calc as far as I can see, so Ryu's Shinku Hadouken would just null and go through it.

Ryu dosen't even resist heat hax to begin with, so sasukes fireballs don't need any heat calcs to burn him

I don't think Curse Mark has a stated amp? It just says higher but there is no page detailing how much of an amp it is. I thought it was vaguely above 18.58 tons from his base(?)

I could have sworn ppl were getting CSM 1 being a 5x amp off some stuff with CSM 2 but it's irrelevant anyways

yeah just assume it's vaguely above his base form by an unquantifiable degree

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Ryu dosen't even resist heat hax to begin with, so sasukes fireballs don't need any heat calcs to burn him

He has feats of extinguishing fire/flames eith his hadoken, in an ending Dan where was running away, along Sakura and another in SF5 with Chun Li going through it while targetting just those

 

[Delusionaltx2]

He has feats of extinguishing fire/flames eith his hadoken, in an ending Dan where was running away, along Sakura and another in SF5 with Chun Li going through it while targetting just those

yeah but i'm talking about what would happen if the firebal just hits him

does he have a version of the hadoken that he can just surround his body with to extinguish it? Because if it hits him like dead on it will just vaporize him

 

[BlackDarkness679]

yeah but i'm talking about what would happen if the firebal just hits him

Same goes for Sasuke if not worse, his chi burnt the arm of Seth which is where Ryu 8-B scales from, along burning clones of him to ashes, with Ryu stated earlier to hold better AP, he just incinerates him

does he have a version of the hadoken that he can just surround his body with to extinguish it? Because if it hits him like dead on it will just vaporize him

No he doesnt, also how hot are Sasuke flames? Plus, why we acting like he cant just blast through them? Sasuke has no defense either and he ends up worse by comparison

On top of that Ryu has senses and perception denying his stealth and ninja tactics

Stamina from what i see isnt telling me he outlasts either against Ryu

more skill than Sasuke

As far as skill goes Sasuke seems better as that over Ryu

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Same goes for Sasuke if not worse, his chi burnt the arm of Seth which is where Ryu 8-B scales from, along burning clones of him to ashes, with Ryu stated earlier to hold better AP, he just incinerates him

1. How severe were those burns? Katon is straight up shown an I believe even accepted to vaporize stuff

2. sasuke has pre-cog

No he doesnt, also how hot are Sasuke flames?

again they can vaporize stuff

Plus, why we acting like he cant just blast through them?

because sasuke can chain them with shuriken jutsu to make it harder to do so

Sasuke has no defense either and he ends up worse by comparison

1. how severe are the burns it causes

2. Can it get pass pre cog before sasuke hits him first?

On top of that Ryu has senses and perception denying his stealth and ninja tactics

Stealth maybe, ninja tactics no not really

Stamina from what i see isnt telling me he outlasts either against Ryu

honestly sasuke at this point has ok stamina feats but that dosen't matter too much tbh

As far as skill goes Sasuke seems better as that over Ryu

eh, I heard ryu had skill slop so i wouldn't say that at least

 

[BlackDarkness679]

1. How severe were those burns? Katon is straight up shown an I believe even accepted to vaporize stuff

Check the links, the burn mark left a hand print on his wrist iirc

again they can vaporize stuff

show an example of that if its as such

because sasuke can chain them with shuriken jutsu to make it harder to do so

that doesnt tell at all how it prevents Ryu to just blast a hadouken against it

2. Can it get pass pre cog before sasuke hits him first?

Speed if equal why you acting he blitzes

Stealth maybe, ninja tactics no not really

He has ninjas in his series

honestly sasuke at this point has ok stamina feats but that dosen't matter too much tbh

From his profile its not as impressive as Ryu and it matters, their profiles show Sasuke doesnt compare

eh, I heard ryu had skill slop so i wouldn't say that at least

He loses to characters far more skilled like Gouken and Akuma and once again going by profiles, Sasuke has better in that over Ryu

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Check the links, the burn mark left a hand print on his wrist iirc

Send me the link because from what ur saying those seem like first degree burns...

show an example of that if its as such

Literally the accepeted calc that gets Sasuke in this key to 8B only works because fireballs vaporize stuff

If you want evidence look at the calc itself, if you disagree make a CRT about it

that doesnt tell at all how it prevents Ryu to just blast a hadouken against it

How is ryus individual energy blast going to catch a bunch of shuriken that are spread out from each other?

Speed if equal

Pre cog doesn't really rely on speed

why you acting he blitzes

Im not, I'm asking what ryu's game plan will be when Sasuke decides to use his genetics and just pre cog him

He has ninjas in his series

So uhh here's the funny thing

Basic ninja tactics consist of stuff meant to be used to outsmart other ninja who also have ESP...

From his profile its not as impressive as Ryu and it matters, their profiles show Sasuke doesnt compare

Stamina literally doesn't matter if Sasuke ends the fight before it gets that far/takes that long

He loses to characters far more skilled like Gouken and Akuma and once again going by profiles, Sasuke has better in that over Ryu

imo, that just upscales goken and akuma but I'm not a street fighters expert so I'll leave that to the supporters ig.

Sasuke being more skilled is a plus for him anyway

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Send me the link because from what ur saying those seem like first degree burns...

How is ryus individual energy blast going to catch a bunch of shuriken that are spread out from each other?

To which he can blast against or dodge if needed

Im not, I'm asking what ryu's game plan will be when Sasuke decides to use his genetics and just pre cog him

Cuz street fighter characters future are hard to read

Stamina literally doesn't matter if Sasuke ends the fight before it gets that far/takes that long

And under what assumption would Sasuke do that as you claim, we acting like Ryu just gonna take the fire blast from Sasuke?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

While I do agree these are definitely way beyond third degree burns (bro is literally turning to ash) at least assuming it's heat ofc, turning stuff to ash/char counts as heavy pulverization iirc and this is a HUMAN

Sasukes fireballs are vaporizing rocks which have a much higher melting point that human flesh so his fire is still better than what ryus chi has been shown to deal with

To which he can blast against

Does ryu have the ability to consecutively fire multiple hadokens at once?

or dodge if needed

I imagine dodging would be difficult especially when the opponent is trained to hit people just as if not more agile than ryu

Cuz street fighter characters future are hard to read

The sharingan doesn't read the future it just analyzes and anticipates stuff, it's even listed as ANPR rather than divination (divination being what ryu would resist here)

And under what assumption would Sasuke do that as you claim, we acting like Ryu just gonna take the fire blast from Sasuke?

No, but are we gonna sit here and act like ryu can dodge forever? Especially when Sasuke is mixing this up with hard to dodge shuriken?

 

[BlackDarkness679]

While I do agree these are definitely way beyond third degree burns (bro is literally turning to ash) at least assuming it's heat ofc, turning stuff to ash/char counts as heavy pulverization iirc and this is a HUMAN

Sasukes fireballs are vaporizing rocks which have a much higher melting point that human flesh so his fire is still better than what ryus chi has been shown to deal with

Lemme see a link for these, i sent you stuff, i expect the same from you

Does ryu have the ability to consecutively fire multiple hadokens at once?

Simultaneous ones no, but he can fire another one after previous one

Even if that isnt viable to you, his shoryukens causes tornadoes, which is on the profile listed for you, while his tatsumaki senpukyaku (spinning kick) allows for some form of flight too

The sharingan doesn't read the future it just analyzes and anticipates stuff, it's even listed as ANPR rather than divination (divination being what ryu would resist here)

And Street Fighter has for that scan posted resistance to precog, she has the ability to predict the future, yet the fighters in the game are harder to do so

No, but are we gonna sit here and act like ryu can dodge forever? Especially when Sasuke is mixing this up with hard to dodge shuriken?

I will just say that Ryu can do more stuff when needed, unless you wanna tell me Sasuke starts with fire blasts and shuriken, they are h2h fighters too, also in case Ryu goes for throwing, Sasuke cant break out, he is outmatched in that

 

[Foriaa]

And Street Fighter has for that scan posted resistance to precog, she has the ability to predict the future, yet the fighters in the game are harder to do so

Sasuke uses physical information to predict people's attacks, like the twitching in their muscles etc. Also the link you have is broken.

I will just say that Ryu can do more stuff when needed, unless you wanna tell me Sasuke starts with fire blasts and shuriken, they are h2h fighters too, also in case Ryu goes for throwing, Sasuke cant break out, he is outmatched in that

Sasuke can flawlessly anticipate people's moves, that includes how and where they dodge to. Sasuke can use his shurikenjutsu to hit Ryu even if he seemingly dodges by changing the direction of the shuriken mid air, or by attaching a wire to it like he did against Orochimaru, and then igniting it with fire style.

No he doesnt, also how hot are Sasuke flames?

Hot enough to flash vape rock, which would require 1100+c.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Simultaneous ones no, but he can fire another one after previous one

I will just say that Ryu can do more stuff when needed, unless you wanna tell me Sasuke starts with fire blasts and shuriken, they are h2h fighters too, also in case Ryu goes for throwing, Sasuke cant break out, he is outmatched in that

Sasukes tactics depend on what he decides his opponents strong suit is.
In this specific key he basically started by spamming shurikens and fireballs, even combining the 2 against Orochimaru to burn his head off.
So while yes he is a h2h fighter as well he's not going to be going h2h in a fight where he has a significant advantage at long range unless he's forced to.

Also while speed is equalized Sasuke can still use shunshin to gain a significant speed advantage making eve h2h combat heavily in favor of Sasuke.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Sasuke uses physical information to predict people's attacks, like the twitching in their muscles etc. Also the link you have is broken.

Copy the link and paste it on google or whatever search engine you use, links from static always act on forum as such

 

[Foriaa]

Copy the link and paste it on google or whatever search engine you use, links from static always act on forum as such

Seems to be completely different than what Sasuke does.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Lemme see a link for these, i sent you stuff, i expect the same from you

I thought I didn't need to send this since again...this is literally the accepted AP calc but sure

Sasuke Fireball Jutsu

vsbattles.fandom.com

Simultaneous ones no, but he can fire another one after previous one

How is this suppose to outpace Sasuke throwing like 5 orso shuriken at once?

Even if that isnt viable to you, his shoryukens causes tornadoes, which is on the profile listed for you,

I'm not sure if the profile has the maximum size and speed at which he can make them so I'll ask just to be safe

while his tatsumaki senpukyaku (spinning kick) allows for some form of flight too

1. This is simply not fast enough to allow him to dodge them all

And Street Fighter has for that scan posted resistance to precog, she has the ability to predict the future, yet the fighters in the game are harder to do so

Divination =/= ANPR

Predicting the future is divination not ANPR

Ryu would only resist divination not ANPR

I will just say that Ryu can do more stuff when needed, unless you wanna tell me Sasuke starts with fire blasts and shuriken, they are h2h fighters too,

I imagine Sasuke would still use that if he's being pushed a little, especially with the AP and LS advantage on ryus side

also in case Ryu goes for throwing, Sasuke cant break out, he is outmatched in that

So he throws Sasuke...Sasuke gets up and changes tactica...now what?

Like unless ryu has Superman's level of flight where he can just fly over and pick him up again to continue ragdolling him I don't see how throwing him is a valid win condition