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Ruby Rose (Dragon Ball RWBY Super) vs Zero (Mega Man Zero Era)
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Okay well first things first, Ruby is gonna struggle with the sheer amount of hax Zero has at his disposal, especially since a good chunk of them are transmitted via his Z-Saber along with his multitude of ways to apply Absolute Zero Ice in his combos. Then you have the fact that Zero can just outright stop time too with one of his weapons and it's layered on top of that because he got it from a guy who can effect him with it and Zero himself is resistant to time stop. Not to mention he can revive himself if he ends up dying ten times via Cyber Elves and if he's really truly pressed for whatever reason he can just use a Cyber Elf to either erase Ruby from existence or transmute her into a helpless met.
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Still Ruby has the advantage in stats, and skill
She's At least 21.06 MegaFoe and her Aura can take 70 At least 21.06 MegaFoe attacks before breaking
She Got Resistance to:
- Extreme Heat and Cold (-90° C to 30,000° C; Aura protects the user from sub-zero temperatures, allowing them to be encased in ice without being cold, walk through a blizzard in casual clothing[30], and traverse the kingdom of Atlas, which resides in Remnant's North Pole,[31] without wearing any protective gear, as well as extreme heat up to and including the heat of flames,[32], being blasted with steam[33] being struck by lighting for an extended period of time,[34][35][36] and being submerged in lava without being burned[37]. In the Galactic Patrol Prisoner Saga she fought Moro close to a Star's surface in Ultra Synergy and her Aura protected her from the heat. -40° C to 120° C with out Aura; Survived and trained extensively for at least one month within the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with Bann, which has temperatures that range from -40° F to 248° F)
- Ice Manipulation (Used Ki to break free after being frozen in ice by Cinder)
- Poison (Survived after drinking the Water of the Gods)
- Transmutation (aura has been shown multiple times to save others from getting turned into candy by Buu)
- Empathic Manipulation (Her friends were feeling the affects of The Apathy's willpower draining aura at night and in the morning Ruby still wasn't affected until a brief moment where she was briefly affected. Despite being affected by the Grimm's willpower draining being amped by being close to them and there being multiple, she could still crawl while everyone else couldn’t even move and she even Instinctively used her silver eyes on the Grimm and then willingly used her silver eyes after and even sat up to use them while all friends struggled to even move)
- Possession (a trained Aura can protect someone from a Nightmare grimm taking over their body more easier than a weak, untrained one)
- Power Absorption (For Cinder to absorb a Maiden's power using the Beetle, she had to break their Aura shield, meaning Aura protects from baseline power absorption)
- Electricity Manipulation (Aura can protect from getting struck by lightning from lightning dust attacks and magic attacks, although it still makes them feel the pain of it)
- Soul Manipulation (People with Aura can survive with chunks of their souls missing, abilet it weakens them[38]. Additionally, attempting to transfer Aura to the Grimm instead causes them to attempt to drain it from the user. Someone had a good chunk of his soul absorbed by a grimm and lived[39]. Her, Bann, Raditz, and Vegeta survived a while after Moro absorbed their souls and life energy[40])
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She has enough AP to one-shot him several fold, meaning after the first time it happens he's just reviving and erasing her from existence.
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Couldn't she dodge it or will this end up being the same situation as Vegeta vs Zero
Also Ruby has
- Magic (After unlocking her potential she gained magic, as such she has same magic as Ozma, which he bestowed[41] to the Maidens),
- Statistics Amplification (Magic is able to amplify the strength of a user's abilities)
- Energy Manipulation (Able to conjure and fire blasts of energy like Salem and Ozma[42])
- Telekinesis (Should scale to Salem, who easily crushed a giant Nevermore[43]. Was able to lift and keep both Moro[44] and Granolah in the air without touching them[45])
- Flight (All of the Maidens demonstrated the ability to fly, as did Ozma in his previous incarnations[46])
- Attack Reflection (Winter reflected a laser beam with her ice constructs)
- Elemental Manipulation (The Wizard granted the four Maidens elemental magic and mastery over the forces of nature[47] and thus Ruby should have it)
- Forcefield Creation (Both Cinder and Raven have demonstrated the ability to create elemental barriers[48])
- Ice Manipulation (All Magic users have shown the ability to manipulate ice, including projecting blasts of ice, launching bolts of ice capable of freezing people solid, freezing leaves to use as a barrage of blades, creating ice constructs, and directly freezing opponents solid)
- Fire Manipulation (Cinder is able to launch jets of fire as well as fireballs. Her flames were strong enough to melt through eight layers of Amity Colosseum, which Ruby should at least be superior to)
- Air Manipulation (Both Amber and Penny showed the ability to create offensive blasts of wind, while Cinder created a vortex around her)
- Electricity Manipulation (Raven is able to channel electricity into her strikes, and Amber launched bolts of lightning)
- Earth Manipulation (Cinder combined chunks of rock with fire to create a flaming rock sword)
- Plant Manipulation (The original Spring Maiden demonstrated the ability to create plants[49])
- Temperature Manipulation (Fria was able to lower the temperature in her surroundings to the point that the air and surroundings were being encased in ice and the air physically burned those around her[50])
- Weapon Creation (Penny, Raven, and Cinder have all demonstrated the ability to conjure various elemental weapons)
- Weapon Control (Both Penny and Cinder are able to freely control the weapons they create independent of themselves)
- Explosion Manipulation (Cinder can cause her weapons to explode after launching them as projectiles)
- Breath Attack (Cinder demonstrated the ability to breathe fire)
- Absorption (Penny is able to absorb electricity, which she used to supercharge her lasers[51])
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Literally none of this is saving her from being erased via the Cyber Elves Reality Warping.
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How about this?
- Holy Manipulation with Silver Eyes (Uses the same energy as the God of Light that is latter revealed to be Preservation Energy, which petrifies, paralyzes, or disintegrates the God of Darkness' creations, such as the Grimm)
- Power Nullification of Existence Erasure, Soul Destruction, Void Manipulation, Limited Spatial Manipulation, Matter Destruction and Deconstruction (History - Because her Silver Eyes have Preservation Energy it can nullify Destruction Energy as Whis explained, Which could erase everything, from living beings, physical objects, energy attacks, and even souls from existence. Energy of Destruction warped the environment of the World of Void. Can erase beings like Dr. Mashirito, and likely even Arale Norimaki, both of whom resisted narrative existence erasure. Power of Destruction also capable of destroying universes along with their individual history, including multiple space-time continuums. Capable of erasing existence across space-time, without splitting the timeline)
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Is this passive? I don't know shit about this stupid bullshit version of RWBY because it's Fanfiction horseshit.
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Then she wouldn't be able to do it in time because there's no visual que that anything is about to be erased, especially since she'll think she already won the fight by this point.
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Yes, I'm just annoyed because I can't exactly find this story anywhere so I can't dig for the feats to see them myself. Also because whoever wrote this could literally make up anything for the character just so they can win a versus thread which is why I would like to avoid FC/OC as much as possible.
Exactly. Zero is just his own level of BS since 99% of his video game mechanics are canon.
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Damn, although his intelligence rating is only Genius while Ruby's is Extraordinary Genius combatant
However to be fair this is before most of her EG feats, however all her previous training in martial arts and her silver eye training to tap into a state of mind and stay calm and focused in a stressful situation are what helped her gain Ultra Instinct later on
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I’ll just break it down for you. While I don’t think it’s fair to say that Zero has more hand to hand skill than Goku, I think his general battle skill is far superior.
For one the reason why Hit was such a tough fight that would require that level of skill is because Time Skipping makes him extraordinarily hard to predict, with nothing to go off of, it’s hard to know where he’ll attack from next
Zero does this and then some, against an entire army. While this army is far weaker than him, they’re still strong enough to deal noticeable damage and have his weapons break off of them. He does this with the following conditions.
Zero also scales to Tomahawk Man’s precision of cutting the wick of a candle by throwing an axe for a solid distance away, which takes insane precision. While I’m not sure if that’s comparable to the Goku vs Beerus attack cancel feat in terms of precision, it’s enough to keep up
Zero also has something to compare to Goku’s feat of fighting Broly with skill. He does this feat against Omega, who effortlessly stomped Leviathan and Fefnir at the same time. Omega also got an amp from the Dark Elf which transformed a fodder enemy into something on par with Zero, and this is Omega’s Base form. Zero fought through that, then an even stronger form after, and then an even more powerful final form after that which is an upgraded form of his original body, meaning it should even have comparable skill to Zero. The amount of increase that Omega has over Zero would make it a pure stat stomp.
As for the whole calm headed thing, Zero has never lost his cool in the Zero Series. He decides to go into the heads of particle cannons and literally does not feel a thing about certain death from that at any time. He even keeps his cool when he knows he is literally about to die, on a time limit that has the entirety of civilization at stake.
While Hit is 1000 years old, we don’t know how much time he was actually assassinating nor do we know the targets of his assassination, meanwhile Zero is casually skill stomping Copy X (yes, skill, he calls him “weak” because of how he fights, and Copy X later admits that Zero is scary specifically because of his skill), who is a perfect copy of the real X with 200 years of combat experience fighting Mavericks that are quite literally based off of his design, making them comparable, each with unique abilities.
This is just to match Goku's best skill feats, he had more to go
Not to downplay Goku skill but I personally think that Zero also just has far better adaptability to fighting styles too, Dragon Ball villains eventually do come down to a fairly simplistic combat style with ki blasts and melee. Meanwhile, each and every Maverick that Zero fights, or Robot Master (because he scales off of Rock)- thats like 160+ foes, has a unique fighting style, whereas I don’t think things have changed for Goku since the end of the original Dragon Ball
For one the reason why Hit was such a tough fight that would require that level of skill is because Time Skipping makes him extraordinarily hard to predict, with nothing to go off of, it’s hard to know where he’ll attack from next
Zero does this and then some, against an entire army. While this army is far weaker than him, they’re still strong enough to deal noticeable damage and have his weapons break off of them. He does this with the following conditions.
- Paralyzed to a degree
- Cannot see
- Being Illusion Manip’d into thinking he can see something
- For a year.
Zero also scales to Tomahawk Man’s precision of cutting the wick of a candle by throwing an axe for a solid distance away, which takes insane precision. While I’m not sure if that’s comparable to the Goku vs Beerus attack cancel feat in terms of precision, it’s enough to keep up
Zero also has something to compare to Goku’s feat of fighting Broly with skill. He does this feat against Omega, who effortlessly stomped Leviathan and Fefnir at the same time. Omega also got an amp from the Dark Elf which transformed a fodder enemy into something on par with Zero, and this is Omega’s Base form. Zero fought through that, then an even stronger form after, and then an even more powerful final form after that which is an upgraded form of his original body, meaning it should even have comparable skill to Zero. The amount of increase that Omega has over Zero would make it a pure stat stomp.
As for the whole calm headed thing, Zero has never lost his cool in the Zero Series. He decides to go into the heads of particle cannons and literally does not feel a thing about certain death from that at any time. He even keeps his cool when he knows he is literally about to die, on a time limit that has the entirety of civilization at stake.
While Hit is 1000 years old, we don’t know how much time he was actually assassinating nor do we know the targets of his assassination, meanwhile Zero is casually skill stomping Copy X (yes, skill, he calls him “weak” because of how he fights, and Copy X later admits that Zero is scary specifically because of his skill), who is a perfect copy of the real X with 200 years of combat experience fighting Mavericks that are quite literally based off of his design, making them comparable, each with unique abilities.
This is just to match Goku's best skill feats, he had more to go
Not to downplay Goku skill but I personally think that Zero also just has far better adaptability to fighting styles too, Dragon Ball villains eventually do come down to a fairly simplistic combat style with ki blasts and melee. Meanwhile, each and every Maverick that Zero fights, or Robot Master (because he scales off of Rock)- thats like 160+ foes, has a unique fighting style, whereas I don’t think things have changed for Goku since the end of the original Dragon Ball
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