Riku (Current KH) Vs. Archer ( Fate/Extra/Stay Night)

[CaptainFalcon64]

The Keyblade Master

Both at Full Power.

Riku can use both Way of Dawn and Oblivion.

Win by KO.


Vs.


A Powerful Servant.

 

[Reppuzan]

Riku blitzes unless it's Fate/Extra Archer. Even then Archer simply lacks the firepower and durability necessary to go toe to toe with Riku.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Couldn't have said it better myself Reppuzan.

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

Wait, so even with copying Riku's abilities?.

 

[The_Everlasting]

I just realized. All Riku needs to do is cast Stop or Zero Graviza and he's got Archer stuck.

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

Oh but in't he faster?, I did this battle because of a Deviant Art Death Battle Archer Vs. Zack by Dimension-Dino and I though how would Riku fair against Archer.

 

[The_Everlasting]

He is, but his attacks can't harm Riku at all, so Zero Graviza and Stop will work to keep Archer in one place so Riku can wail on him.

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

Well then seems like Riku is going to get a victory added to his profile.

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

• looks at this dead thread*,,,, time to fix that *uses a Phoenix Down* Well that's better.

 

[ThePerpetual]

Riku should take this, having far, far higher attack power than Archer and all.

 

[Reppuzan]

Necro much?

 

[Alakabamm]

What's the verdict on some of Archer's hax working, such as Gae Bolg? Also, it is noteworthy that Mythic Formal Wear Archer is far faster than Riku, considering he was topped at 26 million times FTL whereas Riku is like 100 or something.

Edit: Didn't realize someone necro'd this before I posted lol

 

[Reppuzan]

Come to think of it, Gae Bolg could work, but only if it's a one-hit kill. If Riku can survive without his heart for a little while (possible given the nature of the series and the fact that he's already drenched in Darkness) he can use Stop on Archer, heal himself (Gae Bolg doesn't negate magical healing) and wreck the Servant.

But yeah, good point. Archer never uses Gae Bolg like that in the series proper but it's implied he can do that I suppose.

 

[Alakabamm]

Oh, actually, Gae Bolg is a lot more nasty than that. It doesn't just pierce the heart, but also expands its thorns into all of the major veins and arteries connected to your heart and pierces through those as well. It's a really mean weapon.

 

[Reppuzan]

That's the original mythology, but it doesn't work like that in Fate (otherwise Saber's injuries would have been a hell of a lot worse).

If we were to go by the original mythology you'd either have to kick it or throw it with your toes at the enemy. Then once you're done with it you have to pull it out after removing all the barbs.

Yeah, not exactly practical.

 

[Alakabamm]

That's the original mythology, but it doesn't work like that in Fate (otherwise Saber's injuries would have been a hell of a lot worse).
If we were to go by the original mythology you'd either have to kick it or throw it with your toes at the enemy. Then once you're done with it you have to pull it out after removing all the barbs.

Yeah, not exactly practical.

He didn't hit Saber's heart. E rank luck man.

 

[Reppuzan]

Gae Bolg works more like Gae Assail (the spear of his father) in Fate as it is guaranteed to strike what he aims it at (which in most cases is the heart, but is pretty much anything remotely close to the enemy with the throwing version).

But yeah, Lancer's E rank luck and Saber's B Rank Luck bit him hard in the rear.

Come to think of it, almost EVERY Lancer has terrible luck.

 

[Alakabamm]

Gae Bolg has never been used to hit the heart of an enemy in Fate, so we don't know if the thorns are there.

 

[ThePerpetual]

Being Lancer is suffering, you know.

At any rate, I'm fairly certain Riku's stamina is great enough to keep going for a bit if his heart gets stabbed? I mean, he got cut up pretty bad by Xemnas in cutscene in KHII if I recall correctly, that didn't have horrible long-term effects on him. Also, just to be entirely sure, this thing does negate conventional durability in the first place, right?

 

[Alakabamm]

Being Lancer is suffering, you know.
At any rate, I'm fairly certain Riku's stamina is great enough to keep going for a bit if his heart gets stabbed? I mean, he got cut up pretty bad by Xemnas in cutscene in KHII if I recall correctly, that didn't have horrible long-term effects on him. Also, just to be entirely sure, this thing does negate conventional durability in the first place, right?

I don't know if the thorns negate durability but the spear's effect is to pierce your heart regardless of whether it was even thrown or not. So the heart can at least be destroyed. Also, I think Gae Bolg can negate healing to an extent as well.

 

[Reppuzan]

Here is a link to a page that detail's Fate's version of Gae Bolg.

It ignores conventional durability thanks to hax, but if the target is none for astronomical luck they may win the die roll and have the spear pierce the heart. The thrown version lacks the causality effect beyond ten meters.

Note that since Archer's version is a Projection it is a rank weaker and is thus even less likely to deal a killing blow.

 

[Alakabamm]

Yea, the range thing isn't a problem because I established earlier than Archer is massively faster than Riku. It really comes down to if Riku is lucky. Is there a precedent for his luck?