Ridiculous attack potency

[Dark649]

Krillin was going to kill Vegeta with yarijobe sword, this should also be considered.

 

[HokageMangaVox]

A weak Vegeta, we know their power level decreases when they are tired or caught off guard. Plus, Toriyama knew that power levels are inconsistent, that's why he drop them.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

A weak Vegeta, we know their power level decreases when they are tired or caught off guard. Plus, Toriyama knew that power levels are inconsistent, that's why he drop them.

We use them.

Not linearly, but if "A's power > B's power level", then A is faster and stronger than B

 

[HokageMangaVox]

Yes, but as you see they are inconsistent. Yajirobe doesn't even have a city lvl feat. Outliner.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Why? He trained during Saiyan Saga, harmed a weakened Vegeta and has a power level higher than Piccolo's Moon bust (close to Raditz's, actually)

 

[Antoniofer]

Not linearly, but if "A's power > B's power level", then A is faster and stronger than B

Welp, not necessary faster, for example Great Ape Vegeta becomes stronger than base but is now slower, and Great Ape Vegeta is stronger but not faster than Ginyu forces (besides Ginyu) iirc. I think that PL level is more related to force than speed, could even vary depending of the character

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Likely depends on the character.

Vegeta was faster than Goku even in his Ozaru Form.

Also, is like the USSJ, increases power, but the body becomes slower due to the bulk.

But the SS2 is much stronger and swifter.

So I think that some transformation are weakened in speed, but exceptions apart, PL indicates also an speed advantage.

 

[LuciferSPN]

Not linearly, but if "A's power > B's power level", then A is faster and stronger than B

Welp, not necessary faster, for example Great Ape Vegeta becomes stronger than base but is now slower, and Great Ape Vegeta is stronger but not faster than Ginyu forces (besides Ginyu) iirc. I think that PL level is more related to force than speed, could even vary depending of the character

Ape Vegeta didn't became slower,Goku even states how his speed is same,maybe even higher

 

[HokageMangaVox]

Yajirobe power lvl : 970

Vegeta Oozaru Power lvl: 180,000

Outlier much?

 

[Antoniofer]

The difference between Great ape Goku and Pua (or whatever is called the blue cat) was similar massive, and still were able to cut his tail

 

[HokageMangaVox]

Goku Great Ape: 100

Puar: 10

100-10= 90 of difference.

Yajirobe: 970

Vegeta Great Ape: 180,000

180,000-970= 179,030 of difference.

Not even close.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Why we even talk about the tail?

It's literally called "weak point".

I already said why Yajirobe can be Low 5-B

 

[Antoniofer]

We aren't scaling Yajirobe cuz he cutted Vegeta's tail, he got that AP by PL scaling. Also, again, cutting a saiyan tail isn't that difficult, even easier if a superhuman with a katana do it

 

[DatBoyNorbit]

so you guys are saying a great ape's tail has planet level durability because I find that hard to believe. honestly I would say their tails have high room level durabilty

 

[Soldier_Blue]

If Great Ape tails have something like high room level durability, why wasn't Gohan's tail vaporized when Vegeta blasted him?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Goku Great Ape: 100
Puar: 10

100-10= 90 of difference.

Yajirobe: 970

Vegeta Great Ape: 180,000

180,000-970= 179,030 of difference.

Not even close.

Basically this, training with the Z warriors (durning the saiyan saga) get's you this PL?, yup that totaly warrants a low 5-B raiting

 

[HokageMangaVox]

Yajirobe has no feats that put him above King Piccolo, even with that power level. Outlier, with vague power scaling.

 

[DatBoyNorbit]

If Great Ape tails have something like high room level durability, why wasn't Gohan's tail vaporized when Vegeta blasted him?

how come swords don't break when someone gets hit by one

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Yajirobe has no feats that put him above King Piccolo, even with that power level. Outlier, with vague power scaling.

I not even going to try to explain that again.

 

[Antvasima]

If Yajirobe almost scales to Raditz, I think that he should either keep his current tier, or at worst be downgraded to "At least Moon level".

 

[SomebodyData]

Lets see:

-Trained with characters that became Low 5-B

-Cut a weakened 5-B character's tail

-Survived a hit from said weakened 5-B character

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead to say "Low 5-B" is more than fair

 

[Antoniofer]

I'm good with At least Moon level to Moon level+ via scaling from Raditz PL, so normal attacks should be as powerful as Piccolo SBC (during Raditz saga)

 

[AidenBrooks999]

I'm good with At least Moon level to Moon level+ via scaling from Raditz PL, so normal attacks should be as powerful as Piccolo SBC (during Raditz saga)

That's the problem

Piccolo is Low 5-B BEFORE training

And Yarijobe's PL is significally higher than Pre Training Piccolo and close to Radizt's

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Lets see:

-Trained with characters that became Low 5-B

-Cut a weakened 5-B character's tail

-Survived a hit from said weakened 5-B character

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead to say "Low 5-B" is more than fair

Yet his pl is vastly lower then that of SS low 5-b characters

You should know that a saiyans tail is its weakness point on its body and can easily be cut off by just about anything, keyword weakened meaning not at full power

Again, Keyword weakened meaning not at full power and

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

And the funny thing is Raditz PL is 1,500 and Yarjorbes is 970, how can we Powerscale them together?

 

[Promestein]

His power level is much higher than Piccolo's was when he did his Low 5-B feat, so it scales.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

If I recall, weren't we supposed to use GBE for Piccolo? I definitely remember Azzy saying that.

 

[SomebodyData]

PLS are bs

Earthlings for example learned to suppress their power levels, making them appear weaker than they actually are.

Remember when Trunks had a power level of 5?

Considering Yajirobe's feats, scaling, and training, he should remain at Low 5-B

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I can't see in where you posted where yajoribe has any low 5-b feats at all....

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

also which end in piccolos moon bust calc did we accept?

 

[Antvasima]

Given the above comments, I agree with the Low 5-B rating.

 

[Antvasima]

So, should we close this thread?

 

[AidenBrooks999]

If I recall, weren't we supposed to use GBE for Piccolo? I definitely remember Azzy saying that.

If that were a thing, then the Low 5-B shouldn't be on Piccolo's profiles.


Also, there should a clarification that says that such feat was made before his training

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

agreeing to a low 5-b raiting due to injurying a heavily weakend vegeta dosen't make sense....

also can someone answer my question?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

becasue if we accepted the lower end: 295 exatons would be moon level

 

[AidenBrooks999]

becasue if we accepted the lower end: 295 exatons would be moon level

A old thread mentioned this

The outcome? Several staff members said that the high end was used.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

when? i don't remeber that at all

 

[DatBoyNorbit]

If vegeta is weakened so is his durability, if his durability was planet level in the saiyan saga then his weakened form should be BROUGHT DOWN TO EARTH (no pun intended... maybe it was... the world may never know XD) so he should be at best a mountain level durability but I honestly want to say his weakened state should put him at wall or room level because his state barely allowed him to move, the lack of movement should definitely be put in consideration.

 

[HokageMangaVox]

Vegeta, and Nappa supposly master their weakness over the tail. When Piccolo failed to hold Nappa by it.

 

[Antvasima]

This is getting repetitive. The staff members hsve already replied, and agree with each other. This thread should be closed.