Revan Vs Post-Crisis Superman

[Raffney]

"Vitiate, and by extension Revan, is obviously above this."

That is strongly opinion based and nowhere supported by feats and if it is plz enlighten me.

We do know that Vitiate is able to mind hax anyone he came in contact with yes but you can't say the same for Revan only because he was able to resist and countered Vitiate for a time. And saying they can mind hax literally the entire universe is really pushing it. Also i can't find any shown feat that supports the helms power to mind hax the galaxy. It can take control over armies however.


"" "Star Wars mind hax can only affect the weak-willed" is blatant PIS."

You made that up. I stated: " Nowhere is stated that it only easily works when the subject is weak at will. " based on the articels phrasing "Can easily manipulate others mentally with the Force to trick" .

What is only true when it's weak at will. Otherwise it takes effort.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Maybe you should mention that this task was not only relying on Revans military genius alone (although he was smart) but also heavily on the incredible powerful superweapon popping out endless armadas without any effort which nobody really knew about...yeah seems relevant.

This is the only part that truly bothers me. Revan rarely used the Star Forge. This, even, was a key reason why Malak considered him weak. It was stated by a bunch of people that Revan knew of the Star Forge's corruption and tried to limit his exposure to it as best as possible. Not only that, but Malak also stated that Revan didn't even know the true power of the Forge (I argue otherwise, but that's just me), and that with it, he would've been truly invincible, implying that Revan didn't even ran extensive tests with it. (Which we know isn't true as the Infinite Engine would show in ToR)

 

[Phoenix821]

Where does the Tera Foe come from?

 

[Raffney]

@LephyrTheRevanchist

Can you show me some real evidence that Revan rarely used the Star Forge?

Because i remember Carth and severall other military personal saying in Kotor that since Revan reappeared (after his disappearance) his conquering armada had a lot of unfamiliar build star ships among his initial armada.

Also Malak stated that Revans imagination was limited when it comes to the Star Forge, by seeing only a giant factory in it. Don't remember any part in which it was stated that he used it rarely, only that Malak used it at it's full potential after he took control.

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You see Revan was one of the most awesome characters in all of Star Wars. He was a very effective force user, a brilliant tactian and strategist capable of not only relying on the force for his advantage but also his brain.

A feat really rarely seen in Star Wars, as most force users tend to rely solely on the force once they master it. But not so Revan, he mastered severall force unrelated skills aswell such as warfare.

His mayor advantages however are his versatility, his smarts and his strong will. Feats that work out pretty well in a good story but doesn't work out all that well in a vs like this.