Requirements for 1C and 1B tiering?

[AlipheeseXIV]

Based off my current understanding 1C characters start at 6D iirc? With 4D characters being L1C, And 12D and above characters then being classified as 1B, etc I believe? Correct me if I'm wrong ofc, anyways. With that in mind, say a character transcends a 2A cosmology (I'll refer to this character as character x). Character x then sees a higher dimensional entity who transcends them and said 2A cosmology. What tier would this higher dimensional entity have? Because originally I had thought that this would only grant at most H1C but then I read this older post.

Now I'm not sure if it's outdated since I believe the wiki standards were updated earlier this year? Regardless I will link it here but still quote the main point in case people don't wanna click on it

"The Tiering System FAQ says the following: "However, if it is specified that they "transcend space and time" in the sense that they exist on some higher level of reality that is outright superior to a spacetime continuum in nature, then they should be put at Low 1-C, assuming the continuum in question is one comprised of four dimensions."
Later on, it says: "Therefore, such descriptors are to be evaluated while taking into account the number of dimensions which the verse has been shown to entertain; for example, a character stated to exist above physical dimensions in relation to a 4-dimensional cosmology would be Low 1-C with no further context." from this my understanding is that being superior to the concepts of space and time is enough for L1C (as long as it's 3 spatial+1 temporal dimension) there is also this quote here;

• Characters who embody or are a literal timeline / spacetime continuum (The entire past, present and future of 3-dimensional space) on a universal scale can also be considered for Higher-Dimensional Existence (4-D). However, simply being called a universe does not count without proper evidence of the entirety of the past, present and future of the timeline being mentioned.
  
  So with that out of the way from this it seems you can reach 4D without being above a 2A structure? Since it just has to be a universe with the entirety of the past, present and future timeline right? So assuming the 2A cosmology I mentioned earlier had a spacetime continuum for every universe within it and character x transcended said cosmology, only to be met with an even higher dimensional entity exactly what would the scaling for this be?

 

[Tempestdragon6]

Based off my current understanding 1C characters start at 6D iirc? With 4D characters being L1C, And 12D and above characters then being classified as 1B, etc I believe? Correct me if I'm wrong ofc, anyways. With that in mind, say a character transcends a 2A cosmology (I'll refer to this character as character x). Character x then sees a higher dimensional entity who transcends them and said 2A cosmology. What tier would this higher dimensional entity have? Because originally I had thought that this would only grant at most H1C but then I read this older post.

Now I'm not sure if it's outdated since I believe the wiki standards were updated earlier this year? Regardless I will link it here but still quote the main point in case people don't wanna click on it

"The Tiering System FAQ says the following: "However, if it is specified that they "transcend space and time" in the sense that they exist on some higher level of reality that is outright superior to a spacetime continuum in nature, then they should be put at Low 1-C, assuming the continuum in question is one comprised of four dimensions."
Later on, it says: "Therefore, such descriptors are to be evaluated while taking into account the number of dimensions which the verse has been shown to entertain; for example, a character stated to exist above physical dimensions in relation to a 4-dimensional cosmology would be Low 1-C with no further context." from this my understanding is that being superior to the concepts of space and time is enough for L1C (as long as it's 3 spatial+1 temporal dimension) there is also this quote here;

• Characters who embody or are a literal timeline / spacetime continuum (The entire past, present and future of 3-dimensional space) on a universal scale can also be considered for Higher-Dimensional Existence (4-D). However, simply being called a universe does not count without proper evidence of the entirety of the past, present and future of the timeline being mentioned.
  
  So with that out of the way from this it seems you can reach 4D without being above a 2A structure? Since it just has to be a universe with the entirety of the past, present and future timeline right? So assuming the 2A cosmology I mentioned earlier had a spacetime continuum for every universe within it and character x transcended said cosmology, only to be met with an even higher dimensional entity exactly what would the scaling for this be?

you have to prove you exist in higher plane of existence like a second temporal dimension or 5th spatial dimension

 

[Digital_Franz]

Based off my current understanding 1C characters start at 6D iirc?

Yes.

With 4D characters being L1C,

No. 5-D structures for Low 1-C and 4-D structures for tier 2.

And 12D and above characters then being classified as 1B, etc I believe?

Yeah.

Correct me if I'm wrong ofc, anyways. With that in mind, say a character transcends a 2A cosmology (I'll refer to this character as character x). Character x then sees a higher dimensional entity who transcends them and said 2A cosmology. What tier would this higher dimensional entity have? Because originally I had thought that this would only grant at most H1C but then I read this older post.

Transcend itself is a pretty vague word so it wouldn't give anything extraordinary to the characters without context.

Tiering System FAQ

A: Whether higher-dimensional entities qualify for such high tiers or not depends on several different factors, which may take root both in and out-of-verse. To explain this situation, we must first clarify what exactly being higher-dimensional entails. In a way, yes, though not how most would...

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Now I'm not sure if it's outdated since I believe the wiki standards were updated earlier this year? Regardless I will link it here but still quote the main point in case people don't wanna click on it

"The Tiering System FAQ says the following: "However, if it is specified that they "transcend space and time" in the sense that they exist on some higher level of reality that is outright superior to a spacetime continuum in nature, then they should be put at Low 1-C, assuming the continuum in question is one comprised of four dimensions."
Later on, it says: "Therefore, such descriptors are to be evaluated while taking into account the number of dimensions which the verse has been shown to entertain; for example, a character stated to exist above physical dimensions in relation to a 4-dimensional cosmology would be Low 1-C with no further context." from this my understanding is that being superior to the concepts of space and time is enough for L1C (as long as it's 3 spatial+1 temporal dimension)

This is outdated, it was the old tiering system. Well here is what it currently stands for.

Reality-Fiction Transcendence

It is not uncommon in fiction for characters to view lesser realities as if they were fiction, in much the same way as a real world human would view fiction. Frequently that comes in the form of almighty author characters which can freely rewrite those lesser realities. The other way around...

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In the Tiering System FAQ there is also a section for this.

Tiering System FAQ

A: Whether higher-dimensional entities qualify for such high tiers or not depends on several different factors, which may take root both in and out-of-verse. To explain this situation, we must first clarify what exactly being higher-dimensional entails. In a way, yes, though not how most would...

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there is also this quote here;

• Characters who embody or are a literal timeline / spacetime continuum (The entire past, present and future of 3-dimensional space) on a universal scale can also be considered for Higher-Dimensional Existence (4-D). However, simply being called a universe does not count without proper evidence of the entirety of the past, present and future of the timeline being mentioned.

Yeah this is true. It's about Higher-Dimensional Existence.

• So with that out of the way from this it seems you can reach 4D without being above a 2A structure? Since it just has to be a universe with the entirety of the past, present and future timeline right? So assuming the 2A cosmology I mentioned earlier had a spacetime continuum for every universe within it and character x transcended said cosmology, only to be met with an even higher dimensional entity exactly what would the scaling for this be?

If you're talking about Low 1-C, then no. As I said, transcending in itself means nothing without context. There are also these cases:

Tiering System FAQ

A: Whether higher-dimensional entities qualify for such high tiers or not depends on several different factors, which may take root both in and out-of-verse. To explain this situation, we must first clarify what exactly being higher-dimensional entails. In a way, yes, though not how most would...

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Tiering System FAQ

A: Whether higher-dimensional entities qualify for such high tiers or not depends on several different factors, which may take root both in and out-of-verse. To explain this situation, we must first clarify what exactly being higher-dimensional entails. In a way, yes, though not how most would...

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