Removing 666:Satan's 52x Multiplier

[Sir_Ovens]

Ok so I discussed it with Agnaa on Discord and he said that 52x Satan being High 4-C is fine as long as he is beating up Mori one sidedly. However, this means that Mori would need to be downgraded back to 4-C since he fought base Satan evenly.

Now just so we're clear, Satan is not currently 4-C+ and this thread is not about addressing that. He scales to Daewi who is half of the Jupiter feat. If anyone wants to change that, make a separate CRT.

 

[Maitreya12]

Ok so I discussed it with Agnaa on Discord and he said that 52x Satan being High 4-C is fine as long as he is beating up Mori one sidedly. However, this means that Mori would need to be downgraded back to 4-C since he fought base Satan evenly.

Now just so we're clear, Satan is not currently 4-C+ and this thread is not about addressing that. He scales to Daewi who is half of the Jupiter feat. If anyone wants to change that, make a separate CRT.

Why do you keep saying the bolded part? It’s not true he didn’t fight base Satan evenly, he fought phase 2 Satan evenly so why do you repeat it?

Also no Satan is high 4C+ and the reason he’s high 4C+ is because he scales to the full Jupiter feat. On his profile it literally says that he casually tossed Jupiter as his justification for the 4C rating. So again I question why are you downscaling Satan to Daewi if he’s the one actually performing and the one scaling to the full feat. We know he scales above Daewi in fact because Daewi himself couldn’t overpower Satan’s Jupiter toss and needed the aid of Mori Hui, so why are you saying he only scales to Daewi and half the Jupiter feat when he literally did the feat in question that needed to be pushed back?

 

[azontr]

I mean if we really need a CRT to make Satan 4-C+ we can just make that real quick. There's more than enough evidence, just nobody ever got to it.

 

[Maitreya12]

I mean if we really need a CRT to make Satan 4-C+ we can just make that real quick. There's more than enough evidence, just nobody ever got to it.

I just feel like that would be completely needless and a waste of time if the discussion can just be solved here.

 

[DivineAura44]

This isn't even about one-shots. It's literally about scaling. You can't scale to someone who is supposed to be 52x stronger than you because he fought you after you amped up 52x.

How at all does he scale?

 

[PowerToScale]

I just feel like that would be completely needless and a waste of time if the discussion can just be solved here.

Agree with this

 

[Vondoom]

Agree with Maitreya

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Why do you keep saying the bolded part? It’s not true he didn’t fight base Satan evenly, he fought phase 2 Satan evenly so why do you repeat it?

Also no Satan is high 4C+ and the reason he’s high 4C+ is because he scales to the full Jupiter feat. On his profile it literally says that he casually tossed Jupiter as his justification for the 4C rating. So again I question why are you downscaling Satan to Daewi if he’s the one actually performing and the one scaling to the full feat. We know he scales above Daewi in fact because Daewi himself couldn’t overpower Satan’s Jupiter toss and needed the aid of Mori Hui, so why are you saying he only scales to Daewi and half the Jupiter feat when he literally did the feat in question that needed to be pushed back?

When I say base Satan I mean Satan without the amp. It doesn't matter if he's in Phase 2 or 1. But if you really want to make Phase 2 baseline High 4-C then yeah ok.

 

[Nierre]

I agree with Maitreya

 

[Maitreya12]

Ok then as PowertoScale earlier said

The updated keys would be

Satan: 4C+ in base| High 4C in phase 2, Higher with acupuncture (can multiply his power by 52x)| at least High 4C in phase 3, 4B with acupuncture| 4A with red wings.

Mori: High 4C (was able to fight with phase 2 Satan| 4B with acupuncture.

I suppose the number values would need to be adjusted slightly if base Mori is scaling to 52x phase 2 Satan in the current profile, as that doesn’t make sense in the series but their keys would essentially remain the same. Just a slight adjustment for Mori’s numbers maybe

Is this in agreement with everyone?

 

[azontr]

Ok then as PowertoScale earlier said

The updated keys would be

Satan: 4C+ in base| High 4C in phase 2, Higher with acupuncture (can multiply his power by 52x)| at least High 4C in phase 3, 4B with acupuncture| 4A with red wings.

Mori: High 4C (was able to fight with phase 2 Satan| 4B with acupuncture.

I suppose the number values would need to be adjusted slightly if base Mori is scaling to 52x phase 2 Satan in the current profile, as that doesn’t make sense in the series but their keys would essentially remain the same. Just a slight adjustment for Mori’s numbers maybe

Is this in agreement with everyone?

This seems fine to me.

 

[Maitreya12]

This seems fine to me.

Now just wait until the 2C Mori CRT comes in piping hot

 

[azontr]

Naw, waiting on @Godlike's Low 1-C Mori upgrade

 

[Maitreya12]

Naw, waiting on @Godlike's Low 1-C Mori upgrade

Please no

 

[InfiniteDay]

Yall sleepin on @Alexander's Tier 0 upgrade

Yeah the new changes are fine

 

[sunshine]

Ok then as PowertoScale earlier said

The updated keys would be

Satan: 4C+ in base| High 4C in phase 2, Higher with acupuncture (can multiply his power by 52x)| at least High 4C in phase 3, 4B with acupuncture| 4A with red wings.

Mori: High 4C (was able to fight with phase 2 Satan| 4B with acupuncture.

I suppose the number values would need to be adjusted slightly if base Mori is scaling to 52x phase 2 Satan in the current profile, as that doesn’t make sense in the series but their keys would essentially remain the same. Just a slight adjustment for Mori’s numbers maybe

Is this in agreement with everyone?

Completelly fine w me.

 

[DivineAura44]

Ok then as PowertoScale earlier said

The updated keys would be

Satan: 4C+ in base| High 4C in phase 2, Higher with acupuncture (can multiply his power by 52x)| at least High 4C in phase 3, 4B with acupuncture| 4A with red wings.

Mori: High 4C (was able to fight with phase 2 Satan| 4B with acupuncture.

I suppose the number values would need to be adjusted slightly if base Mori is scaling to 52x phase 2 Satan in the current profile, as that doesn’t make sense in the series but their keys would essentially remain the same. Just a slight adjustment for Mori’s numbers maybe

Is this in agreement with everyone?

Once again I don't know the series nor follow the scaling but if this is the "current" scaling then I agree.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Ok then as PowertoScale earlier said

The updated keys would be

Satan: 4C+ in base| High 4C in phase 2, Higher with acupuncture (can multiply his power by 52x)| at least High 4C in phase 3, 4B with acupuncture| 4A with red wings.

Mori: High 4C (was able to fight with phase 2 Satan| 4B with acupuncture.

I suppose the number values would need to be adjusted slightly if base Mori is scaling to 52x phase 2 Satan in the current profile, as that doesn’t make sense in the series but their keys would essentially remain the same. Just a slight adjustment for Mori’s numbers maybe

Is this in agreement with everyone?

Seems fine

 

[PowerToScale]

looks good

 

[PowerToScale]

Its been a while since anything was said. It seems everyone agrees with the current proposed changes. I can make the changes to the pages, although I know their protected, so I just want to get @Sir_Ovens okay first before I make any changes.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Yeah you can apply the changes.

 

[PowerToScale]

Changes done.