Rematch: Kashimo VS Hakari (6-8-0)

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

the sun disk from invincible appears and negs both

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

the sun disk from invincible appears and negs both

I received a premonition, Death Battle Giorno negs Sun Disk, trust

 

[MadeByZiggy]

I will be willing to switch though If Hakari's wincons are given good counters.

Hakari's wincons are directly countered in the manga itself.

I'm relatively new so idk how to add images

but from Chpt. 186 to 190

when the fight starts Kashimo is shown to be far faster and far more skilled than hakari and
when "Kashimo amps up the volume" he is shown to be rel to jackpot hakari with JP Hakari having no real edge over Kashimo until he gets dumped in the water.


Kashimo outlasted Jackpot and would've killed Hakari if not for the large body of water and Hakari's BIQ.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Kashimo outlasted Jackpot and would've killed Hakari if not for the large body of water and Hakari's BIQ.

Problem is in this fight Hakari can still find a body of water and use that BIQ to his advantage for it.

 

[MadeByZiggy]

bruh

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

Problem is in this fight Hakari can still find a body of water and use that BIQ to his advantage for it.

what are kashimo and hakari travel speed again?

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

either way, kashimo still has a fair chance to kill hakari before any mayor movement begins, and about hakari teleporting his domain, we dont know how far he can do this and is mostly still just some meters, and i wouldn't really say he teleported super far away to sukuna that one time and they mostly just ran to the place, then used domain to put himself above

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

what are kashimo and hakari travel speed again?

Pretty sure JJK has the travel speed equal to combat speed since Yuji's initial speed is specifically from him running in a race.

either way, kashimo still has a fair chance to kill hakari before any mayor movement begins, and about hakari teleporting his domain, we dont know how far he can do this and is mostly still just some meters, and i wouldn't really say he teleported super far away to sukuna that one time and they mostly just ran to the place, then used domain to put himself above

He hasn't been shown to teleport super far away however it's a desert area, any attacks they do is going to send each other flying and due to both of them being decently close fighters they aren't going to let any distance between them stay. I did some basic math and even with just an early Yuji speed he can get to one of the water bodies in just 13 minutes, naturally this number is much much smaller due to these characters being able to blitz Beginning of Series Yuji dozens of times over and could vary a fair bit depending on where specifically in the desert they are in, but uh yeah pretty likely that they end up in a body of water in one or two jackpots since there's nothing in the terrain really preventing them from being as mobile as possible.

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

Pretty sure JJK has the travel speed equal to combat speed since Yuji's initial speed is specifically from him running in a race.


He hasn't been shown to teleport super far away however it's a desert area, any attacks they do is going to send each other flying and due to both of them being decently close fighters they aren't going to let any distance between them stay. I did some basic math and even with just an early Yuji speed he can get to one of the water bodies in just 13 minutes, naturally this number is much much smaller due to these characters being able to blitz Beginning of Series Yuji dozens of times over and could vary a fair bit depending on where specifically in the desert they are in, but uh yeah pretty likely that they end up in a body of water in one or two jackpots since there's nothing in the terrain really preventing them from being as mobile as possible.

i knew i had to make this fight in a random void but its too late for that, either way, since hakari is starting here whit no jackpot like in the original fight, could this lead to kashimo blasting his head off in the domain? kashimo did almost do that against a jackpot hakari twice

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Since hakari is starting here whit no jackpot like in the original fight, could this lead to kashimo blasting his head off in the domain? kashimo did almost do that against a jackpot hakari twice

That much is a bit arguable, he's not going to try it immediately since he doesn't know what it does before the domain opens. During it however he is more likely to go for it..... but we also know Hakari is lucky enough and has enough tricks to let the ball rolling.

An empty void likely would've been the only way to prevent water from being a factor, since it prevents any lucky water spots. However that similarly runs into an issue where Kashimo kinda just wins since Hakari is put into a situation he can't think or luck out of.

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

That much is a bit arguable, he's not going to try it immediately since he doesn't know what it does before the domain opens. During it however he is more likely to go for it..... but we also know Hakari is lucky enough and has enough tricks to let the ball rolling.

An empty void likely would've been the only way to prevent water from being a factor, since it prevents any lucky water spots. However that similarly runs into an issue where Kashimo kinda just wins since Hakari is put into a situation he can't think or luck out of.

i hate lucky characters, i hate supernatural luck

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

i hate lucky characters, i hate supernatural luck

Yeah, I can understand that. It's a power that can sometimes be borderli-why do i have a feeling of Deja Vu?

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

any attacks they do is going to send each other flying

if im being honest here, not even in the original fight they sended (is this even a word) each other that far away, like some meters but not super far, so i dont think this should be a factor here

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

if im being honest here, not even in the original fight they sended (is this even a word) each other that far away, like some meters but not super far, so i dont think this should be a factor here

That's because they were in a much more isolated and cluttered area. Even with their more restricted environment they were still traveling a decent distance in a short burst. Naturally they would be traveling much farther if one of them were actively attempting to move the fight elsewhere.

If Hakari needed to get distance away, he wouldn't hold his ground so much against the knock back and focus more on movement in order to attempt his plan.