Reinhardt Glow-up and Torbjörn Prep

[DaReaperMan]

sigh I knew I shoulda waited for PVE before I ****** with these profiles...

Rein​

DaReaperMan/HONOR! JUSTICE! REINHARDT REINHARDT REINHARDT!

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New Rein

Reinhardt (Overwatch)

A highly decorated German soldier, Reinhardt was part of the Crusaders, battle-hardened warriors who wore massive suits of armour with unique capabilities. Although his mentor, Balderich von Adler, was Overwatch’s first choice to join the agency, Reinhardt was recruited after von Adler fell in...

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Old Rein

Torbjörn Vs Titan Omnic part 2​

Titan Omnic takes a hit from the Turret and it doesn't go through at 1:06:42.


These things are powered by what's basically volcanic eruptions in a jar...(or go to 53:41 on the scan below)


And at 56:00 this shoot 4 shots before it just doesn't shoot anymore, so 1/4th of the value of a volcanic eruption...

Tonga volcano eruption released more energy than the most powerful nuclear bomb

The eruption of the underwater volcano in Tonga that triggered a tsunami earlier this year (January 2022), released more energy than the Tsar Bomba - the most powerful nuclear bomb ever detonated - according to a new study.

www.sheffield.ac.uk

Official UK University news has put a recent eruption at 61 Megatons of TNT, so that puts these shots at over 15.25 Megatons without charging up for approximately 10 years...
Calc here
so, 1.4005 Megatons for the shots and 5.602 Megatons for the big one

Torbjörn also used a MUCH bigger gun to one-shot the Titan, so that'd scale above the power source, so Low 7-B with prep. Nice.

Scaling​

Torbjörn literally uses the things
Genji is already scaled to Titan Omnics via sushi blade
Titan Omnics tanked the 1.25 or 15.25 Megatons.

 

[ShionAH]

Still TF2 victims fr fr

This seems to make sense.

 

[TheGatememer]

Mind giving more scans for the volcanic eruption stuff? I don’t really see it in the scans you provided

 

[DaReaperMan]

Mind giving more scans for the volcanic eruption stuff? I don’t really see it in the scans you provided

Go to 53:41 on this video

 

[LordTracer]

All of this seems fine.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Rein should get Enhanced Speed with his dash.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Rein should get Enhanced Speed with his dash.

Charge is already listed as higher movement speed in his speed section.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Charge is already listed as higher movement speed in his speed section.

It's an ability too, so it should be mentioned.

 

[DaReaperMan]

It's an ability too, so it should be mentioned.

It's not a Stat amp to literally charge.

 

[M3X_2.0]

It's not a Stat amp to literally charge.

put the goddamn ability on the thread right now and stop discussing with me!!!!!!!

 

[TheGatememer]

Is there a scan of the actual volcano? Since iirc, a standard Volcanic Eruption is like High 8-C

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

I really don't think we should be scaling this to one of the most powerful volcanic eruptions in recent history

Eruptions vary by an immense amount and their are multiple ways to measure their energy

Also the very eruption you linked states that the energy was 61 megatons not 100 megatons

 

[DaReaperMan]

Is there a scan of the actual volcano? Since iirc, a standard Volcanic Eruption is like High 8-C

I don't think the Overwatch team had the resources to even animate that lol, and I couldn't find anything on the standard eruption, only a bunch of nuke shit

I really don't think we should be scaling this to one of the most powerful volcanic eruptions in recent history

Eruptions vary by an immense amount and their are multiple ways to measure their energy

Also the very eruption you linked states that the energy was 61 megatons not 100 megatons

Seeing as Torbjörn is one of the main dudes who made omnics, and seeing as omnics nearly took over the world... I'd say if there's just a volcano statement like it's no big thing, it ain't exactly a small one.

If they got Megatons from the eruption then clearly they did something.

Lmfao didn't even see that when I skimmed the article! Give me a momento.

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Seeing as Torbjörn is one of the main dudes who made omnics, and seeing as omnics nearly took over the world... I'd say if there's just a volcano statement like it's no big thing, it ain't exactly a small one.

Volcanic eruption are generally seen as extremely powerful so him just referencing a run of the mill eruptions energy is still perfectly valid

It's the same as saying "this has the power of a nuke" which is universally known as extremely powerful however that doesn't mean said Nuke would scale to the Tsar Bomba

 

[DaReaperMan]

Volcanic eruption are generally seen as extremely powerful so him just referencing a run of the mill eruptions energy is still perfectly valid

It's the same as saying "this has the power of a nuke" which is universally known as extremely powerful however that doesn't mean said Nuke would scale to the Tsar Bomba

If the setting is futuristic, you'd probably go for the Tsar Bomba

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

If the setting is futuristic, you'd probably go for the Tsar Bomba

The futuristic setting doesn't affect volcanoes

 

[DaReaperMan]

The futuristic setting doesn't affect volcanoes

Kind of does, who knows what volcanoes have blown their lid, for all we know Yellowstone could've erupted and Torbjörn used that level of energy.

 

[Hypertornado099]

It's an ability too, so it should be mentioned.

Enhanced Speed (Can run faster if he tried)

 

[Hypertornado099]

Also just 1 volcanic eruption example may not be enough

 

[TheGatememer]

If the setting is futuristic, you'd probably go for the Tsar Bomba

No, that wouldn't be the default assumption, since that's like, the 2nd/highest end you could use for a bomb out of tens of thousands

Either way, there isn't enough evidence to suggest that said volcanic eruptions are, like Shmeatywerbenmanjenson says, equal to some of the most powerful volcanic eruptions.

 

[DaReaperMan]

All of this seems fine.

Can you read through the thread and decide on something

I mean if no answer uh

I guess I can do the revisions

But I'd prefer to keep my ducks in a line.

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Kind of does, who knows what volcanoes have blown their lid, for all we know Yellowstone could've erupted and Torbjörn used that level of energy.

Which is a massive assumption for the sake of highballing

We simply have no reason to believe he was referring to the strongest volcanic eruptions and not just your run of the mill average volcanic explosion

 

[DaReaperMan]

Brigitte is not a dude lol

 

[DaReaperMan]

No, that wouldn't be the default assumption, since that's like, the 2nd/highest end you could use for a bomb out of tens of thousands

Either way, there isn't enough evidence to suggest that said volcanic eruptions are, like Shmeatywerbenmanjenson says, equal to some of the most powerful volcanic eruptions.

Which is a massive assumption for the sake of highballing

We simply have no reason to believe he was referring to the strongest volcanic eruptions and not just your run of the mill average volcanic explosion

Gonna ask you two; can I apply Reinhardt since he's not being contested?

Also gonna give Tracer 14 days to respond here again, or to have another staff respond, if not I guess another CRT should be made so that gets the attention it needs.

 

[TheGatememer]

Gonna ask you two; can I apply Reinhardt since he's not being contested?

Looks fine

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Gonna ask you two; can I apply Reinhardt since he's not being contested?

Also gonna give Tracer 14 days to respond here again, or to have another staff respond, if not I guess another CRT should be made so that gets the attention it needs.

Yea Rein looks fine to apply

IDN why your asking me tho since non-admins have all the power of a leaf on the ground on this site

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yea Rein looks fine to apply

IDN why your asking me tho since non-admins have all the power of a leaf on the ground on this site

I'm asking cause ya'll are active debaters on this thread and Tracer hasn't commented again

 

[DaReaperMan]

Which is a massive assumption for the sake of highballing

We simply have no reason to believe he was referring to the strongest volcanic eruptions and not just your run of the mill average volcanic explosion

Mount St Helens eruption

Mount St. Helens, a stratovolcano located in Skamania County, in the state of Washington, United States erupted in May 18 of 1980, at 8:32:17 am (PDT). It had a VEI of 5. It is the most disastrous volcanic eruption in United States recorded history. The eruption was so powerful that a column of...

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I have bad news. This eruption is what we consider our average for volcanic eruptions.

Mount Vesuvius eruption

The Mount Vesuvius eruption of the year 79, is one of the eruptions with the highest kill counts, claiming over 2,000 lives. It had a VEI of 5. The mount erupted in the month of November and in the course of two days, it buried four cities and it was one of the first recorded volcanic eruptions...

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This is considered the high end.

So you're ****** lol

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Mount St Helens eruption

Mount St. Helens, a stratovolcano located in Skamania County, in the state of Washington, United States erupted in May 18 of 1980, at 8:32:17 am (PDT). It had a VEI of 5. It is the most disastrous volcanic eruption in United States recorded history. The eruption was so powerful that a column of...

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I have bad news. This eruption is what we consider our average for volcanic eruptions.

Mount Vesuvius eruption

The Mount Vesuvius eruption of the year 79, is one of the eruptions with the highest kill counts, claiming over 2,000 lives. It had a VEI of 5. The mount erupted in the month of November and in the course of two days, it buried four cities and it was one of the first recorded volcanic eruptions...

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This is considered the high end.

So you're ***** lol

Literally both profiles acknowledge that these explosions were larger than normal and even if we decided to use the use ST Helens eruption the result would be 7 megatons divided by 4 since that was what the initial blast was and Torb specifies that its the explosion he's talking about when referring to these things power

 

[DaReaperMan]

Literally both profiles acknowledge that these explosions were larger than normal and even if we decided to use the use ST Helens eruption the result would be 7 megatons divided by 4 since that was what the initial blast was and Torb specifies that its the explosion he's talking about when referring to these things power

If there was another volcanic eruption profile I'd go with that

Also you're literally lying, Brigitte didn't specify shit. She just said they hold the power of a volcanic eruption

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

If there was another volcanic eruption profile I'd go with that

Also you're literally lying, Brigitte didn't specify shit. She just said they hold the power of a volcanic eruption

Yes, that's what I'm referring to

The eruption itself was only 7 megatons its the thermal energy of all the lava that was calced at 7-B

Same thing for Mt. Vesuvius

Since it explicitly specifies the energy their referring to is the eruption itself we're going with the eruption energy NOT the total thermal energy

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yes, that's what I'm referring to

The eruption itself was only 7 megatons its the thermal energy of all the lava that was calced at 7-B

Same thing for Mt. Vesuvius

Since it explicitly specifies the energy their referring to is the eruption itself we're going with the eruption energy NOT the total thermal energy

Okay, that explanation actually makes sense, edited the OP to reflect this, and going with former(1.25 Megatons tanked) until further notice.

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Also like I said before this is still a rather large eruption as it had a VEI of 5

90% of all volcano eruption are 3 VEI and under

So I'd recommend finding a 3 VEI volcano to scale off of

 

[DaReaperMan]

Also like I said before this is still a rather large eruption as it had a VEI of 5

90% of all volcano eruption are 3 VEI and under

So I'd recommend finding a 3 VEI volcano to scale off of

And I recommend making a profile for one with a CRT to note that that should be the new average with an explanation, I can wait, but I'd prefer the CRT at least be made this year lol

Or I could do it myself, you choose

 

[DaReaperMan]

Also like I said before this is still a rather large eruption as it had a VEI of 5

90% of all volcano eruption are 3 VEI and under

So I'd recommend finding a 3 VEI volcano to scale off of

Alright I can't find one! Have you had any luck?

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

K so according to this (And if I'm doing the math correctly) the energy of a Class 3 VEI eruption (Using kinetic energy of ejected mass) would be 10^.079*3+14

Which equals 2.34422882*10^16 Joules or 5.602 Megatons

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Their is no definite way to measure a volcanic eruption unlike earthquakes so this should be taken with a grain of salt

But this formula is for the explosion part of the eruption which is what most would refer to in fiction

 

[DaReaperMan]

K so according to this (And if I'm doing the math correctly) the energy of a Class 3 VEI eruption (Using kinetic energy of ejected mass) would be 10^.079*3+14

Which equals 2.34422882*10^16 Joules or 5.602 Megatons

Alright thank you, I put that into the OP

 

[DaReaperMan]

Their is no definite way to measure a volcanic eruption unlike earthquakes so this should be taken with a grain of salt

But this formula is for the explosion part of the eruption which is what most would refer to in fiction

Yeah, but at least it's something

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Yeah, but at least it's something

I want to make a thread making this the new average to use for Volcano feats in fiction though I need to find the sources for all these formulas first since the ones provided in the original post are all gone