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no she has 2 ways of doing it. 1) horizon of existence 2) shadow of IX. horizon is bfr. shadow of ix is just all hell breaking loose
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Reinhard vs Acheron
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And you do know you were supposed to apply shit in the OP? Not the shit you proposed mid-thread and then a staff agreed with it, just make a CRT if you have a problem with her Unconventional Resistance to Precognition holy shit. You CAN'T complain to me for doing the same shit, when you DID this TOO
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then it is not a proper answer to Reinhard's wincon
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I dount she is murdering new york so she only does BFR
Also she needs summoning if she can actually summon IX like that
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Its literslly just BFR she sends them to the horizon if existence where the IX shadow is. You’re basically saying hsr planets have black hole resistance
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What wincon if Acheron transforms and Reinhard gets blitzed since Acheron becomes MFTL+ 63 sextillion the speed of light after which is shown as a slowmotion effect in the cutscene
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Pls not on this thread
This is derailing. I say this as someone who respect you and Poops
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Do you know how chainscaling works?
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He'd have to argue against me. The Divine Protection of Darkness Nullification counters magic. Reinhard even has Divine Protections for magic and non-magic phenomena.
A good example is the Divine Protection of Water Avoidance and the Divine Protection of Water Drainage, which counter water magic, and the Divine Protection of Waterplay, which counters water damage. Same thing happens with Fire Avoidance and Fireplay.
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well its not her summoning IX. it's a manifestation of ix. and it can happen anywhere in the world on its own like the imaginary energy singularity stuff or w/e they are called anyway. other self-annihilators can do it
its not always BFR man...Its literslly just BFR she sends them to the horizon if existence where the IX shadow is. You’re basically saying hsr planets have black hole resistance
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Said transformation is not instant and requires her drawing her blade
Reinhard has ANPR and immediately tries to stop her espcailly with that one blessing
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Transforming not being instantaneous = not enough
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Acheron has the AP & LS advantage with her being 3-C and Class E compared to Reinhard
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i think ppl should also account for her high level regen btw. ik he has anti-regen but thats tied to power null which we still havent decided if it'd work
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Dura neg
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And if her transformation literally stops time after the slowmotion effect? That slowmotion effect of her is already created before she transforms completely, which means Acheron becomes MFTL+ instantaneously
You can rewind, you can fast forward before the timestamp but Acheron becomes MFTL+ from FTL just by stepping alone
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yes there is proof. i will establish the distinction in the thread. if u dont want to take my word for it now, thats fine
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Is it on her profile
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He resist time stop
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Yes, she's FTL on base and jumps into MFTL+ (63 sextillion the speed of light) on her Unsheathed Sword transformation
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This doesn't matter btw because Acheron could just jump and she becomes faster than Reinhard to the point of seeing him as frozen, the time stop after that is legit a bonus
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LS advantage
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so when the thread says "speed equalized" is it just for their base forms? not accounting any buffs during combat?
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YES THAT'S WHY SPEED EQUALIZED IS A MESS, i mentioned this on the first page
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You do know Acheron's transformation to her Unsheathed Sword from her base one is like a massive speed gap right especially if Acheron literally sees the entire Astral Express and Aventurine even other things as slow-motion and well there are problems with Speed Equalization as a rule in itself
Acheron literally jumps from FTL to MFTL+, and since Speed Equalized only takes the first part in which both characters are FTL, yeah Acheron's blitzing Reinhard not to mention the AP difference and her hax
If you're restricting Unsheathed Sword, just make it a sword combat fight like Acheron and Reinhard clashing but Acheron definitely one-shots anyway so gg
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Huh? Explain
How does that help agaisnt dura neg tho
Base only
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Massive speed gap basically the moment she literally steps one foot and transforms, even if she doesn't transform completely — Her starting a transformation in itself is already a massive speed gap as shown when everything is in slowmotion after Acheron steps 1 foot
Reinhard can't stop Acheron's transformation, her Imaginary Energy is passive during that transformation if anything and the LS difference would just make Acheron be able to pin Reinhard to the ground and Reinhard can't pin her down to stop the transformation
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Plot twist:
Also, another plot twist:
Since he'll be ending her before she draws her sword and properly f*s up space and time,
Not enough.
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Divine protection of adaption and other abilities added to the list of abilities Reinhard could obtain aren't on the profile due to the profile being slightly outdated but would it change the outcome to the fight
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Well guess what it becomes a massive speed gap the moment Acheron starts to transform, she doesn't even have to complete her transformation because we do know after Acheron just steps 1 foot everything is in slowmotion and this is not a time manipulation related ability as PRECISELY Acheron draws her sword after everything is in slowmotion (after she steps 1 foot) as shown in the video
Elaborate on how Reinhard would end her because Acheron is Tier 3 and Reinhard is Tier 5, this is still not including her Passive Imaginary Energy too after the slowmotion, dude Acheron jumps from FTL to MFTL+ just by stepping
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"Past her defense" Passive Imaginary Energy:
Also if Acheron starts at 3-B, she doesn't even have to transform which means Reinhard gets passive haxxed by Imaginary Energy and Path of Nihility + assuming Reinhard could tank a 3-B attack, her slash literally creates corrosions (miasma of Nihility)
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Mustard
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Changing vote to reinhard FRA
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Her passive hax are from the Shadow tho? Or are we just gonna say March resists Nihility due to being close to transformed Acheron
Wdym passive Imaginary energy? Does she habe a forecfield and aura now?
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