Reinhard Van Astrea vs Byleth Eisner

[Robo432343]

Reinhard van Astrea

Reinhard van Astrea is the current Sword Saint and a member of the Royal Guard, currently acting as Felt's knight. Reinhard became the Sword Saint at the age of 5, after which he immediately defeated his father, Heinkel Astrea, in a duel. He is extraordinarily powerful and stated to be the...

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Byleth Eisner

Byleth Eisner is the main protagonist of Fire Emblem: Three Houses, and serves as a major antagonist in Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes. They are the child of Jeralt Eisner, and Sitri, and was born in Imperial Year 1159 at Garreg Mach Monastery. They are a member of a notorious mercenary...

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Base Byleth is used
SBA
Speed Equal

 

[CurrySenpai]

Time Manip, Power Null, and Death Manip GGs. Peak Emblem solos Mid Zero I fear and Byleth, by virtue of being a spontaneous RPG character, just starts with their strongest stuff so this matchup is kinda dead in the ground.

 

[Robo432343]

Time Manip, Power Null, and Death Manip GGs. Peak Emblem solos Mid Zero I fear and Byleth, by virtue of being a spontaneous RPG character, just starts with their strongest stuff so this matchup is kinda dead in the ground.

ok i switched it to base Byleth

 

[CurrySenpai]

All 3 things I mentioned are still there, just that Time Manip is just at a lesser extent. The main issue arises in Byleth just has so much shit and can revive. Sure, Reinhard has Immortality but it's not gonna be that hard for BYleth to incap

 

[Robo432343]

The main issue arises in Byleth just has so much shit and can revive.

Reinhard also has so much shit and can revive

Sure, Reinhard has Immortality but it's not gonna be that hard for BYleth to incap

Its not gonna be hard for Reinhard to just EE Byleth seeing how Byleth has no resistance to it + Reinhard being way more skilled

 

[VortechsTG]

Reinhard resists all three and the power null just "rarely" prevents a counterattack anyway

 

[CurrySenpai]

Reinhard also has so much shit and can revive

Its not gonna be hard for Reinhard to just EE Byleth seeing how Byleth has no resistance to it + Reinhard being way more skilled

I think skills pretty equally even with whatever skill wank Reinhard has. I can't remember it off the top of my head, someone who scales Fire Emblem more than me would be better but Byleth is an extremely excellent tactician and probably the most skilled person in 3H, and thats saying a lot when there's really old people there and what not.

 

[CurrySenpai]

Reinhard resists all three and the power null just "rarely" prevents a counterattack anyway

Still a factor to consider, also from what his page says he doesn't resist time manip, just time stop.

 

[VortechsTG]

Still a factor to consider, also from what his page says he doesn't resist time manip, just time stop.

Her time manip is just time stop + time rewind which she can only use 10 times. And to say he can't resist time rewinding is not entirely accurate but for the purpose of this matchup and on this scale it is probably fair.

 

[Robo432343]

I think skills pretty equally even with whatever skill wank Reinhard has.

reinhard is more skilled
extraordinary intelligence vs genius intelligence combat

Byleth is an extremely excellent tactician

Reinhard is also an extremely excellent tactician

probably the most skilled person in 3H, and thats saying a lot

Reinhard is also one of the most skilled in his verse

when there's really old people there and what not.

bro wtf is this no way you are using old people to scale Byleth's skill

 

[Fezzih_007]

Ok, not sure how Byleth is supposed to win, when Reinhard can one-shot them very easy the 10 times.

What exactly are they wincons?

 

[Fezzih_007]

Reinhard is also an extremely excellent tactician

Based on what?

 

[VortechsTG]

bro wtf is this no way you are using old people to scale Byleth's skill

I think they mean like hundreds of years old. Though that alone still doesn't prove they can begin to compare to Reinhard's skill.

 

[CurrySenpai]

I think they mean like hundreds of years old. Though that alone still doesn't prove they can begin to compare to Reinhard's skill.

I used that as a placeholder example since I, in all honesty, don’t feel like grabbing skill feats.

 

[CurrySenpai]

Her time manip is just time stop + time rewind which she can only use 10 times. And to say he can't resist time rewinding is not entirely accurate but for the purpose of this matchup and on this scale it is probably fair.

If it was time stop and time rewind it would be listed as such, it does not act like time stop in the series so saying it should be treated as such is a bit disingenuous.

 

[VortechsTG]

If it was time stop and time rewind it would be listed as such, it does not act like time stop in the series so saying it should be treated as such is a bit disingenuous.

It literally is listed as such.

 

[CurrySenpai]

It literally is listed as such.

More so for ease of description

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

just a quick reminder that the collar which was supposed to "absolutely null all of Reinhard's abilities" in Ex 4 barely made him feel lethargic
Reinhard just resists the other 2
Actually uh, how is Byleth gonna kill Reinhard permanently? I dont see anything that can put him down
Reinhard adapts and ggs

 

[BadSystems]

only thirteen uses of timestop and revival at most

How does Byleth not get stomped here?

 

[CurrySenpai]

How does Byleth not get stomped here?

She’s a lesbian and much cooler character so she negs

 

[BadSystems]

She’s a lesbian and much cooler character so she negs

Seems legit, Byleth FRB!!

Close thread now

 

[CurrySenpai]

They gotta add lesbianism to the wiki as a P&A.

 

[Robo432343]

sesbian lex

 

[Spinoirr]

She’s a lesbian and much cooler character so she negs

Er technically Byleth is Bi given she can marry both men and women in the game

 

[CurrySenpai]

Me when I lie:

Er technically Byleth is Bi given she can marry both men and women in the game

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

reinhard is more skilled
extraordinary intelligence

Can his intelligence be nulled by people who can nullify blessings ?

 

[VortechsTG]

Can his intelligence be nulled by people who can nullify blessings ?

Assuming you mean divine blessings, hell no. Not that she can do that.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Assuming you mean divine blessings, hell no. Not that she can do that.

I'm asking if his intelligence comes from blessings

Don't know why he has extraordinary intelligence at best he is gifted or a genius. None of his feats seem close to this:

Extraordinary Genius: Individuals whose knowledge spreads over multiple fields of science and who vastly surpass the real world's upper human limits. At this level, many are capable of creating extremely advanced futuristic technology, executing complex strategies even under high pressure, outperforming supercomputers,[1] and even accurately predicting the future through sheer mental calculations. This is where super scientists of exceptional scientific knowledge begin to appear.