Regarding the Appearance of Mythological Figures across pantheons

[Yobo_Blue]

So, obviously, there's a lot of stuff in the Mythology page. However, thee seems to be some things that go untouched. One of these topics is that of mythological figures that appear in multiple different pantheons. For example, Sun Wukong (Myth) appears in some myths not necessarily covered by the Chinese legends it originates from. What do we use in these cases? Do we apply Crossover Rulings? What if it is a entity that exists primarily in myth that is allowed here but has ties to major religion that isn't allowed here?

 

[Flashlight237]

I dunno how to properly answer this question, but there are things that Chinese and Japanese mythology do copy from each other, like the Four Symbols for instance.

• The Black Tortoise is referred to as Xuanwu (þÄ䵡ª) in Chinese, Genbu (þÄ䵡ª) in Japanese, Hyeonmu (ÝÿäÙ¼┤) in Korean, and Huyß╗ün V┼® in Vietnamese.
• The Azure Drago is referred to as Qinglong (ÚØÆÚ¥ì) in Chinese, Seiryu (ÚØÆþ½£) in Japanese, Cheong-nyong (ý▓¡Ùúí) in Korean, and Thanh Long in Vietnamese.
• The Vermillion Bird is referred to as Zhü Qu├¿ (µ£▒ÚøÇ) in Chinese, Suzaku (µ£▒ÚøÇ) in Japanese, Jujak (ýú╝ý×æ) in Korean, and Chu Tã░ß╗øc in Vietnamese.
• The White Tiger is referred to as B├íi HÃö (þÖ¢ÞÖÄ) in Chinese, Byakko (þÖ¢ÞÖÄ) in Japanese, Baekho (Ù░▒Ýÿ©) in Korean, and Bß║ích Hß╗ò in Vietnamese. Oddly, enough, the White Tiger is the only one where the Asians can actually agree on using the same name for considering these very similar translations.

From how commonly known Greek and Roman mythology is, it is common knowledge that Greek and Roman mythology share the same aspects, minus a few mnor parts of it (i.e. Silvanus, who didn't exist in Greek mythology). Thing is hardly anyone in this wiki knows about Chinese/Japanese mythology, let alone all the details on what's the same and what isn't. To answer this question of yours with a good idea of what we're doing requires major investigation.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I think another good example of what I'm talking about is Maximó, a deity that is tied to and appears in multiple older Mesoamerican religions, but also has some mentions in certain denominations of Catholicism in various roles.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that we will have to create separate profiles for the different incarnations of the mythological characters.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I think some of them may be have stories that are connected from both.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, then I suppose that the stories in question would have to be canon to both profiles.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Ok. I'll take your advice for now, but it may be best to get more input.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I am too overworked, so I will have to unsubscribe to this thread.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I understand.

 

[Votron5]

When it comes to mythology and folklore, there really isn't a definitive canon, and people can and do have wildly different interpretations on mythological figures and creatures. I do think that creatures, heroes, and deities that are a part of multiple cultures should be just considered a composite character unless these cultures version of the myth is significantly different from each other. I.E. Astarte and Aphrodite are two different cultures interpretation of the same goddess, but are so far apart from each other they should have their own profiles.

Some creatures (Like vampires, goblins, giants, ogres, etc.) should just be profiles on a culture-to-culture basis under any circumstance due to only having superficial similarities.