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Ragyō Kiryüin vs The Beast (Infamous)

"It takes ages"

So you said it isn't a stomp.

Apparently, getting Ragdolled over and over again because of Massive AP disadvantage means you stomped your opponent.
 
It is a stomp if you can do nothing to kill your opponent when your opponent can oneshot you.
 
Pretty sure I can name plenty of opponets who Ryuko one shots that were added....
 
Newendigo said:
Really?
Also, define "fair".
Their AP and Durability levels are extremely close, they both have ways of taking each other down and resisting each other's abilities, literally the only way it would be unfair is if you allowed Guyver Exceed.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Gargoyle One said:
Pretty sure I can name plenty of opponets who Ryuko one shots that were added....
Really? Who?
Ryuko vs Boros.

7X difference between her and Boros, with zero way past her Regen....

Donkey Kong vs Ryuko.

Baseline vs Woman who one shots baseline...
 
Ryukama literally say that Ryuko one-shots....

Did anybody...... Ah, just forget about it.
 
@Gargoyle The difference between Ryuko and Boros' AP is less than 2...and inability to get past regen alone isnt enough to warrant a stomp

iirc DK is far higher than Baseline

@New No idea lol
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Gargoyle The difference between Ryuko and Boros' AP is less than 2...and inability to get past regen alone isnt enough to warrant a stomp
iirc DK is far higher than Baseline

@New No idea lol
"Using the accepted Low End, Ryuko would be about 7.5 times stronger then Boros"-Ryukama Boros vs Ryuko.

How.... Interesting.
 
Yep, 7.5 times stronger at Max Low End completely disregarding Zenkai.

<Fight gets added
 
I later conceded that Ryuko is more like 1.26 times stronger than Boros since he also has that hypothetical calc of him wiping the surface.

Also what are the differences between Ryuko and DK's calcs again? I remember her being stronger but not one-shot worthy stronger.

I won't judge if this match is a stomp though. Just clarifying those things.
 
I see..... That's what I get for reading at 12PM...

Anyway, what are your thoughts on this?
 
All I'm getting from this is Ryuko needs to get overhauled.

Abd matches whwre regen can't be overcome or even incapitated for a small while are questionable
 
But in this case, it's a stomp because she can't get past his regen and he counters her form of mind hax?
 
Its a stomp because:

  • She has no way past his regen
  • His physiology counters her mind, memory, AND empathic manipulation
  • He has hax that can oneshot her
 
No.

  • A lot of characters cant bypass the Regenerationn of Ryuko and Ragyo.
  • The fact that he can counter her abilities is the same as their opponent cant counter their Regenerationn.
  • There is a lot of matches where Ryuko, Satsuki and Ragyo can oneshot with pure Ap advantage.
 
Not sure how much an AP advantage will help when your opponent can regen from being torn apart atom by atom.
 
@New:

  • Black holes and breaking her down with matter manipulation would bypass her regen
  • Im not even sure what youre arguing in this one
  • Ragyo's AP isnt enough to get through his regen
 
Hes basicaly saying half of Ryukos matches are stomps because the opponent literally cant win due to regen, and in some cases she had regen and better stats so the opponent can't even incapitate her via putting her down nonstop so she csnt fight back, like against Boros.
 
1) What you are saying is that is unfair for Ragyo becuase she cant bypass his regen, which a LOT of chacacters that Ryuko has fought did not have a answer, and yet this matches were added.

2) Is the same argument, the only insignificant advantages that this characters had agaisnt them was counter by their Regenerationn (And Ryuko R.E).

3) Same as above.

Not to mention, Ryuko is far, far, far more unfair than Ragyo, because she can evolve and adapt to her enemies abilities, so any pathetic advantage that they ever had is screwed (But hey, was a fair match anyway).

But now that for the first time that Ragyo is getting overwhelmed by another character: "No, this is a stomp, closing".
 
@J-Man Regen alone isnt enough to qualify for a stomp, and the gap between Ryuko's and Boros' AP is less than 1.5x
 
@New It's not only unfair because she cant bypass his regen. Get that through your head and stop using it as an argument to keep this thread open. Not being able to get through regen alone is not enough to qualify for a stomp. This is a stomp because the Beast has hax that can literally oneshot Ragyo byond her ability to regenerate if she so much as touches them, while Ragyo cant ever hope to mind hax him or brute force him to death. THAT is why its a stomp.

One character being able to oneshot while the other can do literally nothing to be able to win is the definition of a stomp match.
 
While i agree this is a bit stompish, that doesn't change the previous point, a few of their wins are stompish too.
 
Donkey Kong.

Someone who only has raw strength against Ryuko.

Which she outclasses him in anyway as he's 7 teratons, she's 47.
 
This really doesn't look like a stomp, especially because the Beast has like, 3 ways to kill her and without those the match would be "Inconclusive because neither can kill the other".

And yes, this is exactly the same thing as every Ryüko match ever. It's just that Ragyō is the one fighting someone with a Regenerationn too powerful that will eventually beat her.
 
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