Question about SCP Universe scaling.

[Gasper]

There has been stated to be aleph-omega amount of universes in metaverse. And each universe works on something called hume, which determines how fictional each universe is. This would make infinite aleph hierarchy of universes:

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"Like a string of beads, chained throughout reality, universe after universe, each exceeding the last in their vast wealth of knowledge. We were only the second in a chain that went on forever.

And when MUORG followed that chain, they found that it did more than continue indefinitely. One string of worlds reached its limit, somehow, impossibly, one of those many before it had figured out how to allow the process to go on forever, terminating in a single, infinitely far away, limiting world.

And then they'd continued.

That limiting world had spawned another more advanced still, and that one another. And they'd created another limit. Two infinite chains standing beginning to end. Then three, four, five….

The mathematicians working for us at the time said they were following a pattern called "transfinite recursion". A process by which a linear ordering could be extended beyond the simple infinity of "1, 2, 3…".

First an infinite chain of universes. Then 2, then 3…

Then an infinite chain of infinite chains. Then 2, then 3.

Then repeat. Each time there are as many of the last thing as there are numbers, repeat again.

In the end, each universe had a place in an order that was as deep as mathematically possible"

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"There, at the very end, one step beyond even the incredible power of this unending recursion, shining on the metaversal horizon, was Omega.

Our legacy. Every single piece of knowledge, every feeling, and thought, and idea, every strongest love and deepest hate, metaphysics, storytelling, further ideas I cannot even hope to comprehend. The full knowledge of every possible intelligence, arranged in every possible way, all churning and bubbling and moving inside the thoughts of a single being with infinite memory. With enough space inside its head to simulate all of history in an instant, to dream the entire process leading to its creation in a night."

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Then there is also This tale that mentions aleph 0 and how universes stretch even beyond that.

My question is, why isn't this 1-A+ hierarchy?

 

[Gasper]

Bump

 

[Wardokman69]

Its low 1-C from what the past CRT said. Idk about the aleph null

 

[Gasper]

Its low 1-C from what the past CRT said. Idk about the aleph null

Yeah, i don't see how that's just low 1-C when every universe is stacked on top of each other with fictional transcendence.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

"And each universe works on something called hume, which determines how fictional each universe is."

Literally just wrong off the bat. Hume determines the 'amount' of reality in a given space. Which tends to determine the strength of reality-warping effects. In about every single canon which talks about Humes and narrative shit, humes are explicitly noted to have nothing to do with fictionality.

There is no fictional transcendence here. At all. Just universes generating each other, but those universes are parallel. They exist together in a multiverse, not as some sort of narrative stack. SCP-4555 is Low 1-C without scaling to other cosmologies. And it's too isolated from any canon for us to do that.

 

[Gasper]

"And each universe works on something called hume, which determines how fictional each universe is."

Literally just wrong off the bat. Hume determines the 'amount' of reality in a given space. Which tends to determine the strength of reality-warping effects. In about every single canon which talks about Humes and narrative shit, humes are explicitly noted to have nothing to do with fictionality.

There is no fictional transcendence here. At all. Just universes generating each other, but those universes are parallel. They exist together in a multiverse, not as some sort of narrative stack. SCP-4555 is Low 1-C without scaling to other cosmologies. And it's too isolated from any canon for us to do that.

What about multiverses that are stated to literally be infinitely higher than lower multiverses?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

I'm not sure where you're seeing that in SCP-45555. It simply mentions infinite quantifies of universes producing more universes. There is no hierarchy beyond the universes being more and more advanced. But certainly nothing comparable to narrative layers.