Question about scaling Kim Suhyeon

[Black_Cat49]

I have a question. At the end of the series, Kim Suhyeon has an UNMEASURABLE stat, just like Yohan. However, the story states that “Even though they are both UNMEASURABLE, it doesn’t mean they are on the same level.”

So I was wondering, is it possible for Kim Suhyeon to receive a possibly 9-A (933 MJ) rating, just like Johan? (Since the UNMEASURABLE stat has multiple levels, but we don’t know exactly how much the gap between Kim Suhyeon and Johan is.)

Would it be reasonable to assign possibly 9-A (933 MJ) to Kim Suhyeon?

Additional Note: In the final part of the series (Chapter 174), Park Hyungseok invited Kim Suhyeon to join the upcoming war in the future. So I thought that considering this detail, it wouldn’t be too unreasonable to grant possibly 9-A (933 MJ) to Kim Suhyeon.

 

[CatLover313]

It’ll be hard to prove Suhyeon is actually Johan level due to the amount of assumptions you have to make. Whether the initial Johan shown in chapter 95 is pre-HFBD/Post-1A Johan yet being higher than a Pre-Timeskip Choyun and Daniel which could put him at CX already. Whether the Johan that shows up in chapter 151 is Pre-HFG or Post-HFG with IT. If it’s the latter, it would be enormously higher than the chapter 95 Johan putting him above his Base stats and UI Copy stats but it would still be hard to prove Suhyeon and Choyun are on that level due to unmeasurable being a wide variety of stats and if IT might be a stat boost.

There is a lot of assumptions that would need to be made with no convincing argument unless direct scaling is shown. They also don’t really have any good narrative going for them due to many contradicting statements. However, I do feel like Suhyeon and Choyun should be upgraded to “Likely 9-A” despite their lack of Small Building feats or good narrative just because they should be way above this feat.

 

[Black_Cat49]

It’ll be hard to prove Suhyeon is actually Johan level due to the amount of assumptions you have to make. Whether the initial Johan shown in chapter 95 is pre-HFBD/Post-1A Johan yet being higher than a Pre-Timeskip Choyun and Daniel which could put him at CX already. Whether the Johan that shows up in chapter 151 is Pre-HFG or Post-HFG with IT. If it’s the latter, it would be enormously higher than the chapter 95 Johan putting him above his Base stats and UI Copy stats but it would still be hard to prove Suhyeon and Choyun are on that level due to unmeasurable being a wide variety of stats and if IT might be a stat boost.

There is a lot of assumptions that would need to be made with no convincing argument unless direct scaling is shown. They also don’t really have any good narrative going for them due to many contradicting statements. However, I do feel like Suhyeon and Choyun should be upgraded to “Likely 9-A” despite their lack of Small Building feats or good narrative just because they should be way about this feat.

He already received a Likely 9-A rating since the time they reached EX or DX. However, I was just wondering if, during the EOS phase when he upgraded his UNMEASURABLE stat by 1-2 levels after fighting Jo Yun he could be comparable to Johan.

(If not, then I guess we’ll have to wait for the final war of Lookism.)

 

[CatLover313]

He already received a Likely 9-A rating since the time they reached EX or DX. However, I was just wondering if, during the EOS phase when he upgraded his UNMEASURABLE stat by 1-2 levels after fighting Jo Yun he could be comparable to Johan.

(If not, then I guess we’ll have to wait for the final war of Lookism.)

Ah, I periodically look at the Suhyeon and Choyun stat pages and they still seem outdated. But I also definitely believe we’ll get really good scaling for Suhyeon and Questism when they show up in Lookism.

 

[Black_Cat49]

Ah, I periodically look at the Suhyeon and Choyun stat pages and they still seem outdated. But I also definitely believe we’ll get really good scaling for Suhyeon and Questism when they show up in Lookism.

I plan to remake their profiles after I finish making KillerPeter’s profile. (But this is my first time doing it, so I still don’t know how to post it on the main page since I can only upload it in the User Blog.)

Note: Or I might have someone else upload it instead, but I will provide them with the information since I don’t know how to code separate image keys and ability keys.

 

[ResoNate2036]

I have a proposal for the scaling

We know that Yugyeom's Terabyte Low kick deals x3 of crit damage, meaning it's a more than x3 multiplier for his AP

Yugyeom at UR strength landed the kick on Jeongdu Ma's face, who had XXX endurance, and did no damage, meaning XXX endurance would scale more than 3x of UR (and UR would be relative to this feat), which would also upscale XXX strength

Ascended Suhyeon with XXX strength canload Terabyte low kick, meaning he would be x9 of the Jihyeok calc, making him 9A with Terabyte Low kick

 

[Black_Cat49]

I have a proposal for the scaling

We know that Yugyeom's Terabyte Low kick deals x3 of crit damage, meaning it's a more than x3 multiplier for his AP

Yugyeom at UR strength landed the kick on Jeongdu Ma's face, who had XXX endurance, and did no damage, meaning XXX endurance would scale more than 3x of UR (and UR would be relative to this feat), which would also upscale XXX strength

Ascended Suhyeon with XXX strength canload Terabyte low kick, meaning he would be x9 of the Jihyeok calc, making him 9A with Terabyte Low kick

As far as I remember, the multiplier rule isn’t that simple. Otherwise, the values would be too inflated.

In reality, UR strength ×3 and LR+ durability should already be enough to endure, considering Kyung Uijin was still able to get up even after being kicked by Suhyeon

That’s exactly why a UR stat calculated at 5 million would become problematic.
If we apply that kind of multiplier, LR+ or MR stats would reach 15 million+, which I think shouldn’t be possible because the values would become overly inflated.

 

[ResoNate2036]

As far as I remember, the multiplier rule isn’t that simple. Otherwise, the values would be too inflated.

In reality, UR strength ×3 and LR+ durability should already be enough to endure, considering Kyung Uijin was still able to get up even after being kicked by Suhyeon

That’s exactly why a UR stat calculated at 5 million would become problematic.
If we apply that kind of multiplier, LR+ or MR stats would reach 15 million+, which I think shouldn’t be possible because the values would become overly inflated.

Multiplier shouldn't be a problem if they are directly stated in the series. As far as I can tell, a small number like 3x should pretty straight forward. Big multiplier requires a lot more evidence

As for your problem about it being too high

Stats in Questism has shown that the gap between stats keep increasing the higher the stats are. For example, the gap between UR and UR+ is roughly the same as the gap between C and SSR, as shown when Suhyeon mana drained Heo Jintae. The gap betweem X stats was stated to be heaven and earth.

 

[Black_Cat49]

Multiplier shouldn't be a problem if they are directly stated in the series. As far as I can tell, a small number like 3x should pretty straight forward. Big multiplier requires a lot more evidence

As for your problem about it being too high

Stats in Questism has shown that the gap between stats keep increasing the higher the stats are. For example, the gap between UR and UR+ is roughly the same as the gap between C and SSR, as shown when Suhyeon mana drained Heo Jintae. The gap betweem X stats was stated to be heaven and earth.

We still need to create a discussion thread first because there are many cases where specific multipliers are clearly stated, yet they cannot be applied.

 

[ResoNate2036]

We still need to create a discussion thread first because there are many cases where specific multipliers are clearly stated, yet they cannot be applied.

Sure, that sounds easy enough. I will make the thread
Though having the thread mods approving it will take a lot of time

 

[ResoNate2036]

We still need to create a discussion thread first because there are many cases where specific multipliers are clearly stated, yet they cannot be applied.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/questism-crt-terabyte-low-kicks-multiplier.178374/

Can you tag the thread mods for me?

 

[Black_Cat49]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/questism-crt-terabyte-low-kicks-multiplier.178374/

Can you tag the thread mods for me?

1. “I can’t tag them directly because my position and yours are just regular member ranks (but you can go to their profiles and leave a message request).”

2. “I don’t know many moderators, but if you want, I can try to find and ask them for you.”

 

[ResoNate2036]

1. “I can’t tag them directly because my position and yours are just regular member ranks (but you can go to their profiles and leave a message request).”

by tagging I mean going to their profiles on the wiki and leave a request on the wall (sorry I used the wrong term)