Question about DC emotional entities

[Confluctor]

Before they got deleted, they had the following;

Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3. He embodies [concept/emotion] throughout the Universe)

Abstract Existence

Immortality (Types 1, 6, 8)

And Nekron's says this.

Immortality (Type 5 and 8)

But why? Does anyone know?


Also shouldn't Concept manip be type 1 considering they are the primal forces of the universe and the building block of creation? Especially entities like Nekron and the white entity of life.

 

[Jibz]

following because i highkey wanted to know the answer to this aswell

 

[Confluctor]

I was working on Nekron, and I think the entities - all of them - should have conceptual manip type 1 and AE type 1, but then I remembered the dead files and got lost lol. Like why do these exist? Am confused

 

[XXKINGXX69]

He is death itself on a higher level than Death of the Endless, so he exists as long as death does

 

[Confluctor]

For what? Type 5?

Also imma try to get at least low 1c Nekron. Should be interesting

 

[XXKINGXX69]

For what? Type 5?

Also imma try to get at least low 1c Nekron. Should be interesting

For both, and Nekron should probably just be higher than death of the endless since he's the ultimate death in relation to all other deaths including her

 

[Confluctor]

Tbf that would only apply to classic Nekron, pre Johns retcon. There are minor differences in terms of origins and stuff.

So far, I have this

Confluctor/Nekron

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I gotta add AE type 1 to his true form. And type 2 to his "avatars" - for the lack of a better term

 

[XXKINGXX69]

What retcon?

 

[Confluctor]

Blackest Night essentially. He is now the ultimate death and darkness in the universe instead of being a higher dimensional death god like he was in Cap Atom and original Tales of GL corps

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Blackest Night essentially. He is now the ultimate death and darkness in the universe instead of being a higher dimensional death god like he was in Cap Atom and original Tales of GL corps

Thats not a retcon, he can just be both, and I don't know why that would make him weaker

 

[Confluctor]

If you got proof of otherwise, send it my way. But alas, there isn't one

 

[XXKINGXX69]

If you got proof of otherwise, send it my way. But alas, there isn't one

You would need proof that he gets retconned though. New information isn't exactly the same as a retcon.

 

[Confluctor]

Again, there is nothing to suggest he still has his higher dimensional form. They explicitly mentions how he is the universe itself. Unless you want to argue that his true form is the final darkness then...

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Since when does he have this higher dimensional form? And the universe is higher dimensional. You can also be both higher dimensional and the universe itself, if you embody both of them

 

[Confluctor]

Captain Atom Vol 2 43, that's where his higher D form shenanigans comes from.

Also I am well aware that the DC universe is multi dimensional, but it's not accepted here so you know.