Question about Crossover Profiles

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I heard that in order to make a crossover character profile, it has to explicitly stated to be a different character from the original source material, and contribute to this new material (story wise), and must have different “characterization”... My question is, why?

Most characters don’t act differently just because they’re in a new setting, it would break the character. I’m just not understanding why a needlessly tight rule is there.

I ask, because I am, admittedly, going to make a Sonic (Shin Megami Tensei) profile, as he has his own self-contained story that doesn’t conflict with the main story (and thus cause scaling problems), and possesses skills and abilities he didn’t have in his original state. Similarly, I plan to revive Nero (Shin Megami Tensei) as well, for the same reason.

 

[QuasiYuri]

I think it's to prevent just having the exact same character with different stats.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I think it's to prevent just having the exact same character with different stats.

But that’s pointless, is this not an indexing site?

 

[Bernkastelll]

I think it's to prevent just having the exact same character with different stats.

this seems like an arbitrary rule made to not allow characters have strong versions

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

it is probably to avoid it being a copy paste with small changes (like the tier)

Sonic (Shin Megami Tensei Tensei)

also sonic the hedgehog appeared on SMT or is this another sonic?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

it is probably to avoid it being a copy paste with small changes (like the tier)


also sonic the hedgehog appeared on SMT or is this another sonic?

Sonic the Hedgehog, with actual feats and story.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Sonic the Hedgehog, with actual feats and story.

.........wtf

 

[Rikimarox2]

Sonic in SMT

We are truly living in the best timeline.

 

[Bernkastelll]

We are truly living in the best timeline.

I doubt

 

[ShakeResounding]

We have several other profiles for the same characters except in a gacha game or other media. Obviously not intending to throw any franchise under the bus, but a few examples come to mind.

King Kong (Magic Domain)

King Kong is a giant ape Titan who first appeared in the 2017 Legendary Pictures film Kong: Skull Island. He was licensed to appear in the chinese mobile game Magic Domain alongside Godzilla in a special event. In the dangerous and terrifying jungle of Skull Island, King Kong is the...

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Godzilla (Magic Domain)

Godzilla (ゴジラ Gojira) is a Titan who first appeared in the 2014 Legendary Pictures film, Godzilla. He was licensed to appear in the chinese mobile game Magic Domain alongside King Kong in a special event. Godzilla was born before ancient times, devouring all the existing energy for food. The...

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Godzilla (Dragon Quest)

Godzilla A prehistoric creature having slept under the ocean for tens of millions of years, Godzilla is a radioactive monster created by Toho and licensed to appear in the mobile game Dragon Quest of the Stars. Tier: 2-C | 2-C Name: Godzilla Origin: Godzilla/Dragon Quest Gender: Male Age: 65...

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Rimuru Tempest (Nanatsu no Taizai)

Rimuru Tempest is a Japanese man reincarnated into a Slime who rules over the Jura Forest as the king of monsters. He's exclusive to the The Seven Deadly Sins: Grand Cross mobile game, where he, Benimaru and Milim Nava appear to help the Seven Ferocities on their quest. He also serves as the...

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[Theuser789]

I want my fast hedgehog page

 

[DragonLord]

If I had to be honest, I do wonder if it’s just that mods don’t want a ton of OP crossover versions of characters because they leech off of others feats and abilities, which I guess can be annoying but it’s not exactly, y’know, wrong to add as a indexing site, specially since we have so many profiles for other franchises

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

As it currently stands, I see no reason why Sonic was barred from having a profile, when he meets all requirements.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Just as a warning, Sonic profile probably won’t drop till September, as part of the revisions being planned.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Just as a warning, Sonic profile probably won’t drop till September, as part of the revisions being planned.

Revisions to SMT as a whole, I assume?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Revisions to SMT as a whole, I assume?

Yeah, and Sonic’s tier is directly effected by it. Not going to spoil it, but he’ll end up the 5th (still undecided) strongest crossover character, preceded by Dante, Nero, Guts, and Kirito in that order.

 

[DragonLord]

preceded by Dante, Guts, and Kirito in that order.

Question, is the SMT Mobile Dante separate from the One in SMT 3?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Question, is the SMT Mobile Dante separate from the One in SMT 3?

Undecided. There’s arguments for and against it.

 

[Theuser789]

Dang

 

[sanicspood]

where does that version of sonic scale?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Can’t say.

 

[sanicspood]

classified information huh?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

No, I just can’t say if the revisions will even be accepted. The person he scales to doesn’t even have a profile.

 

[sanicspood]

oh

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Kirito

Huh..him too?? Didn't know was in a crossover.....though I guess it makes sense what with all the Demon World being virtual shenanigans.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

So, uhm. Now that Part I & II is complete, and any potential downgrades have been warded off (fow now), expect the arrival of Sonic (Shin Megami Tensei), and the revival of Nero (Shin Megami Tensei), and the newborn V (Shin Megami Tensei).

 

[Rikimarox2]

I still can't wrap my head around SMT sonic, man.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

By technicality, it’s because of Sonic that MT is 1-A.

During Sonic’s escapade to Low 1-C (and one of the only to succeed), and one of the MT support members got the idea to make yet another upgrade (after we just got Low 1-C) to 1-C. From there, we got Ultima’s attention from the character Yog-Sothoth, and his title “the all-in-one and one-in-all who’s limitless in self”, which rekindled his interest in the series.

7 or more months later of work… 1-A. So uh, thank (or blame) Sonic, lol.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Sonic, the ******* root cause of 1A.

Thats actually really funny, tbh.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Worst part is, Sonic isn’t even a low tier Demon (still undecided if we’re giving him Demon Phys). He scales above Hell Biker, and his casual Sonic Booms knocked him off his Bike. Thing is, Hell Biker is Low 1-C. Pretty good for a crossover.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Worst part is, Sonic isn’t even a low tier Demon (still undecided if we’re giving him Demon Phys). He scales above Hell Biker, and his casual Sonic Booms knocked him off his Bike. Thing is, Hell Biker is Low 1-C. Pretty good for a crossover.

So MT Sonic is literally a speed demon of chaos? Quite fitting tbh.

 

[Urshani]

So MT Sonic is literally a speed demon of chaos? Quite fitting tbh.

Sonic v Demi-Fiend when?

 

[Everything12]

Ultima says Hell Biker would only be Low 2-C scaling off Matador.

 

[sanicspood]

Balls

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Ultima says Hell Biker would only be Low 2-C scaling off Matador.

I’m fine with that too. That’s not bad.