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A single calc staff?

I would figure that something as big as a verse deletion would require 3 voting staff agreements.
Therefir is a content mod. And not sure where you heard that from; if it’s based on a CRT that regards the ratings of the profiles then it needs 2 staff approvals. However, mines is based on the basis of violations against the editing rules.
 
I never recall we need multiple staff inputs for a small verse deletion that has the mass majority of profiles violating our editing standards. Also, I myself is also a content moderator so my opinion is also valued.

If this is reprimanded upon, I genuinely apologise and I’ll keep it in mind.

Also, the Hi3 discussion thread has been dead for a while. People have been discussing about Honkai: Star Rail, which is practically a different Hoyoverse series that is still intact on the wiki.
 
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All of the Honkai Impact 3rd pages have been restored.

@Solacis I genuinely apologise for mishandling my work and destroying your work as a byproduct. I do have a motive based on my opposition towards the rating and state of those pages, but I requested deletion not only because of that but also to keep accuracy and reliability amongst our wiki. I talked to many Hi3 scalers and many users who oppose your sentiment have been overly stressed and agonised over your antagonism and hostile disagreement with them; friends of mine as Shiroiyo and ThanatosX have a good sense towards carrying distress because of you -- hence, I have a good reason to carry distaste for you. Though, you're a good member of the wiki and you did work your ass off and I appreciate that; we have oppositions, but I still see you as human nonetheless. Honkai Impact isn't just your verse, you're not the only contributor therefore you don't get to dictate everything where the verse goes. Despite whatever you saw upon my messages of you off-site or whatever, yes, I did speak illy of you but it has nothing to do with this site at any costs; I did not systemically attack, harass or have the intent to do anything against your health, well-being and safety whatsoever; though considering you were affected by my sentiment there, then I genuinely apologise for my behaviour. If you think I do have such intent and should be banned for it, then I furthermore apologise for that; I will refrain from speaking about you in such a derogatory manner from here on now, but you can't force me to like you either. You can talk negatively behind my back and I can do it too; it's a sign of opposition and there's nothing sinful with that.

Your pages do in fact, violate our editing rules and have a justifiable reason to be on the wiki if no one is willing to work on improving it to fit our editing standards. As a staff member, I try and maintain reliability and accuracy in the content of our wiki. For content that is heavily inaccurate due to the lack of citations, it is eligible for deletion and I am not wrong about deleting that type of content for the overall sake of the wiki. However, I do admit I undoubtedly mishandled this situation by not waiting longer for more staff input to ensure safety; not consulting every support there is for the verse; and especially not notifying you, the creator, about it.

You do not have any right to accuse me of being malicious towards the wiki and having the intention of undermining it. I've been a very hard-working staff member over this year and I sacrificed a lot of time and effort on improving this wiki. I have completely no reason to destroy something that I worked a lot to have built. But I understand your sentiment on me to think of me in that way.

I hope we all mutually understand each other and cease the hostility from now on; we can maintain our oppositions, but for the sake of the community let's just be peaceful.
 
This profile is already on FC/OC
 
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This profile is already on FC/OC, and even if it wasn't im pretty sure it would have to be, since we already have the original Rake profile in VSBW
Bump?
 
If that character has enough popularity then it's eligible to be on VSBW. However, I wouldn't know. However, one thing I'd point out is the lack of references -- other than that, I find the profile quite well made honestly.

@69Blood69 You'll need to add references to the profile, otherwise it will likely be subject for deletion.
 
If that character has enough popularity then it's eligible to be on VSBW. However, I wouldn't know. However, one thing I'd point out is the lack of references -- other than that, I find the profile quite well made honestly.

@69Blood69 You'll need to add references to the profile, otherwise it will likely be subject for deletion.
(y)
 
From what I can tell, it's a fanmade game version of a copyrighted character, that being the Rake
You might have to create a CRT for it since it's not something we can confirm just by claims and all.
 
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Alright, likely a tall order, but it needs to be done. Also a long time coming.

Back when I was an exceptionally inexperienced powerscaler, I made a lot of pages for the Goosebumps verse. Looking back at them, the majority of them are horrifically flawed for one reason or another, mainly stemming from my sheer incompetence and the fact that I was using the wiki as a reference when making a lot of them. They're either low quality, contain misinformation, scanless, have bad justifications for stats, and/or the character the profile is on just isn't fit enough to have a profile (Also grammatical errors galore). It would take way too much time and effort to go back and fix all of them, especially since I am the only person working on this verse, so it would be best to just delete the stuff below.

  • Reality Hole. Not so obvious pseudo-composite. The AP section mentions that it is left ambiguous if the thing was just dropping Matt into another reality or is recreating all of reality. In the book it is made clear that it is remaking all of reality, but in the TV adaptation it is left unclear, and that was taken into consideration.
  • Ricky Beamer. Pseudo-composite with minimal justification for powers, and piss poor justification for 10-A. Honestly not too far off from a haxless human.
  • Dr. Brewer's Clone. No justification for any of his powers, and barely anything for his stats. This will be a running theme.
  • Cuddles the Hamster. "Wrecking a classroom" for 9-A. Not in the sense he actually destroyed the room.
  • The Body Squeezers. Completely scanless and minimal explanations.
  • Mrs. Maaargh. I guess she eats kids, but not in the Pennywise sense where she gobbles them up like an animal, but in the sense she cooks them. Aside that bullshit 9-C, just like Ricky, she is not far off from a haxless human.
  • The Blob (Books). Pretty terrible coverage for the character, after genuinely powerscaling them off-site. Size Manipulation, Body Control, and Elasticity are all bullshit and don't actually occur in the book. Also "swallowing humans" is obviously not good enough for 9-B.
  • The Haunted Car. Minimal explanations and a weird pseudo-composite.
  • Vanessa. A regular woman with a single non-combat applicable power. Not really material for a fighting wiki.
  • Mud Monsters. Poor explanations for everything, and the "harden their mud bodies" came from an entirely different set of mud monsters from a different book.
  • Annihilator 3000. A mix between their book incarnation and game incarnation.
  • Egg Monsters. Scanless, minimal explanations, and of course a bunch of 10-Cs can overpower a single human. A physically unremarkable human at that, so they wouldn't be 10-A either.
  • Giant Worm. Pseudo-composite. Also not sure if the justification for 9-B actually would be 9-B.
  • Gargoyle Saliva. Probably not enough to warrant a whole profile, but I'll let the staff be the judge of that.
  • Mr. Wood. Outdated, Mr. Wood has a lot of stuff in Enter Horrorland. Much of the same as before besides that.
  • The Cuckoo Clock of Doom. Scanless, bad justification for type 2 Acausality, and like the Mud Monsters it also uses stuff from another unrelated supernatural clock.
  • The Poltergeists. Everything, literally everything, comes from me reading shit off the Goosebumps wiki. Poor and unreliable coverage of the character.
  • Mr. Mortman. Poor justification for stats. I'm pretty sure anyone can kill a small pet turtle if they wanted to.
  • Emmy. Also just read the Goosebumps wiki to made this.
  • Blue Kerlew Hound. Also made using the wiki.
  • Della. Scanless, and laughably bad justification for her tiers. The way she killed people was by using poisonous snakes.
  • Hannah Fairchild. Weirdly formatted pseudo-composite. Also has literally one scan in it.
  • The Phantom. The justification for the tier is wrong, if I'm not mistaken the guy used a heavy object to knock out the main character. Both of them are kids as well. Also takes stuff from the TV adaptation with his justification for Fire Manipulation.
  • Monty's Clones. No or poor justifications for everything. I doubt being superior to a child would warrant 10-A.
  • Ghost Dogs. Composite. Takes stuff from both the original book and TV adaptation.
  • The Snatcher. We actually don't know how the Snatcher killed everyone, so the Tier 9 scaling is unreliable.
  • Amaz-0. Literally a haxless human. I don't think your average dude with knowledge on party tricks should have a profile.
  • Gummy Bears. Pseudo-composite for a gag character that only appears for a few minutes in the entire movie.
  • Graveyard Ghouls (Movie). Minor monsters with piss poor justification for stats. Especially 9-B.
  • Slappy (Fox Kids). Is literally a bunch of what are essentially commercials. Doesn't even cover them all that well. Also the calc used to give him 9-B durability, the one stat that isn't Unknown, wouldn't apply to him.
There are a lot of other profiles that just don't have scans, but otherwise they appear fine to me. Although if that is enough to make the profile bad, thus susceptible to deletion, then sure, they can be removed as well.
Honestly, I wouldn't be opposed to just having the entire verse deleted from the wiki if that would be easier. Probably best to just do that and start over, because the verse has been managed extremely poorly over the years.
Total deletion of the verse and start from scratch. Fixing every bad aspect about the existing profiles would require way too much work to be done in a reasonable amount of time, especially for just one person (me), only for it to then have a chance to go through. Making good CRTs is already a hefty task, let alone with obscure verses like this.
Bump?
 
Starter Park is barely associated with the verse, and Apex hasn't been around in nearly an entire month.

I'm essentially the head honcho of the verse, the main person responsible with it.
 
I'm essentially the head honcho of the verse, the main person responsible with it.
The Goose Behind the Bump
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I am pretty sure a profile at least need to have some amount of haxes in it to be indexed, while this profile only has one and that single one still doesn't qualify for the haxes which it's given.
 
I am pretty sure a profile at least need to have some amount of haxes in it to be indexed, while this profile only has one and that single one still doesn't qualify for the haxes which it's given.
That’s correct; not to mention that having a flashlight is not light manipulation.

@TheShape03 Be advised
 
That’s correct; not to mention that having a flashlight is not light manipulation.

@TheShape03 Be advised
I figured it was okay because we already have characters who have "Light Manipulation" for having a flashlight. Also because the addition of the profile was accepted here and because the level that the character has is important for the other characters in the verse to scale from it. It was simpler and looked better to just profile him and put in the other characters' profiles "He hurt Jay" instead of "He hurt Jay, who survived falling off a small tower." But ok, I'll edit the profiles of the rest of the characters to add the tower feat as it was before, otherwise no one will know where 10-A comes from.

(I'm surprised that 3 staff members agreed to adding that profile, if it's supposed to be against the rules)
 
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I figured it was okay because we already have characters who have "Light Manipulation" for having a flashlight.
Um this is another page you created; you’re citing yourself as a reference lol. The light manipulation page states: “The user can create, shape and manipulate visible light” emphasis on the user.

Now, don’t get me wrong, there are instances where tools/equipment can be listed in the P/A’s. For example, Battler’s Truths, or Anos’s Venuzdonoa BUT this is exclusively in instances where the equipment are verse-specific. Flashlights are universal, day-to-day objects. Would I get water manipulation for digging a well? No.
the level that the character has is important for the other characters in the verse to scale
You can scale the other characters to this guy without him having a page. Nothing else needs to be changed.
I'm surprised that 3 staff members agreed to adding that profile, if it's supposed to be against the rules
I’m surprised as well.
@LordGriffin1000 @DarkDragonMedeus

hey uh, fhis page has 1 single P/A (light manipulation by virtue of having a flashlight - which I stand by not even being a P/A feat). If you agree with it remaining, I’d like some clarification as to why.
 
Um this is another page you created; you’re citing yourself as a reference lol.
I mean, no one disagreed with that profile even though I proposed it in a staff-accepted thread and it was edited by staff members a few times. But I guess if it doesn't qualify as light manipulation, I'll make a small CRT to remove later.
Nothing else needs to be changed.
The current pages say that such a character scales to Jay and link to the deleted profile (originally the profiles said that Jay had survived a fall from the red tower, but I removed it and simply linked the currently deleted profile when I applied the changes of this CRT), I must add again that Jay survived the fall of the tower if the profile disappears, otherwise no one will know where 10-A comes from. 🗿
 
Um this is another page you created; you’re citing yourself as a reference lol. The light manipulation page states: “The user can create, shape and manipulate visible light” emphasis on the user.

Now, don’t get me wrong, there are instances where tools/equipment can be listed in the P/A’s. For example, Battler’s Truths, or Anos’s Venuzdonoa BUT this is exclusively in instances where the equipment are verse-specific. Flashlights are universal, day-to-day objects. Would I get water manipulation for digging a well? No.

You can scale the other characters to this guy without him having a page. Nothing else needs to be changed.

I’m surprised as well.
@LordGriffin1000 @DarkDragonMedeus

hey uh, fhis page has 1 single P/A (light manipulation by virtue of having a flashlight - which I stand by not even being a P/A feat). If you agree with it remaining, I’d like some clarification as to why.
I do not remember approving something like that. But yeah, I think a vote for deletion seems in order.
 
While I won't comment on the profile itself, many characters on the wiki have "Limited/Minor Light Manipulation" via having a flashlight. There are multiple cases where a simple flashlight may be combat-viable (against characters weak to light, at least), and creating light isn't something humans can do naturally, so I think listing it as Minor/Limited via flashlight should be fine
 
many characters on the wiki have "Limited/Minor Light Manipulation" via having a flashlight. There are multiple cases where a simple flashlight may be combat-viable
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This is ridiculous. Can you link say 5 pages that have this (preferably from different verses) where the flashlight in question is a completely regular flashlight, and is used to give light manipulation to a character in the P/A’s.

For the record, I double checked w/ 2 of our highest ranking staff (Agnaa and Bambu) who said it would not be light manipulation barring instances where (1) flashlight is supernatural
and (2) flashlight has a tight-knit connection to the character by virtue of, say for example, being in their arms or something like that.

Firstly, editing doesn’t mean reviewing.
Secondly,

- Dereck protected the page; easily can be done without reviewing the P/As. Mentioned this to him offsite, and based on his response I am almost certain he would not agree to this.

- Garrixian’s edits on this page were done autonomously with a bot (I know because we were discussing it while she was doing it) and I can guarantee she didnt even glance at the page when these edits were made.

- Antvasima was more than likely using the MassCategorization tool, and, as head bureaucrat is too overworked to pay attention to these minute details anyway.

-CatzlaBOT is my bot account. I made those edits autonomously, and didn’t review the page.
 
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This is ridiculous. Can you link say 5 pages that have this (preferably from different verses) where the flashlight in question is a completely regular flashlight, and is used to give light manipulation to a character in the P/A’s.
Vanny
Mônica
Courage
Indiana Jones(?)
Ash Williams (Dead By Daylight)
 
Thank you.

Since there are enough pages for this too be a consistent thing, and since there are people who seemingly don’t agree I’ll be creating a thread on this tomorrow. Anyone who wants to continue debating this, can do so there.

For the time being, I’ve un-deleted the page.
 
Vanny
Mônica
Courage
Indiana Jones(?)
Ash Williams (Dead By Daylight)
Courage having Light Manipulation is an error from my part tbh

When I did his hax revision, @Agnaa (don't ask me why he checked a Courage thread, lol) said that It was a case of "technically a Power", but was better to not have It on the page due to a flashlight not being a considerable enough example of light manip

I probably forgot to remove it when I applied the thread
 
Being objective and based on one of the limitations of Light Manip.
  • May be unable to create light, being limited to manipulating only from already existing sources.
This may be the same as using a flashlight, except that it would be limited. Just an example though, i'm not conviced by it either.
 
Honestly, I don't really see what's so wrong about noting Light Manipulation for those who have flashlights. Like that's like saying most characters shouldn't have energy projection just for owning laser guns/cannons or etc from the effects of the character's equipment. It's just a pointless change, and hell, even the image for Light Manipulation even has someone using something to an alternative to a flashlight.
 
Tbh, it can only apply if it’s part of their standard equipment. Otherwise, it should be removed.
 
Nuke Hitler

The character has only one ability (a very specific one that don't even suit for combat), and it is even mentioned in the profile that she doesn't even fight on his own. Why keep it here? It's like having a Dende profile or similar
I was actually thinking about making a dende profile lol
 
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