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Precure: while we wait for 2-C confirmation, let's do some scaling

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First things first: Dark King should scale to the seeds of darkness (4-A) in his first key. He was unintimidated by them challenging him, and his forcefield withstood some attacks from them. Black and White can almost fight the fused seeds, earning them at most 4-A ratings.

Since Dark King's second key is the sum of his first key and someone comparable, he would be 2x the original feat. In Max Heart, the cures (who are already stronger than second key Dark King) acquire the sparkle bracelets, considering the fact that it let them match someone who previously stomped them, as well as all of this, it should grant an additional 2x multiplier. Due to how close universe shaking is to baseline 3-C (about 1/6th), this is already 4-A+... with Marble Screw Max Spark. Speaking of Baldez, while he was defeated by them, he still put up a fight, and considering the other unquantifiable increases, he should also be this tier. Freezen and Frozen overpowered the attack fairly easily, so they scale as well.

In All Stars, by which point the Cures are likely far stronger, Fusion is able to take attacks from all 14 precure, even all at once. The other Cures prove comparable to Black and White (if slightly weaker), so this already makes large team attacks 3-C, let alone Fusion, who might deserve an "at least" for taking all of their attacks at once (even when he doesn't absorb them for some reaso) Bottom no-selled attacks from Blossom and Marine and should be no weaker than Fusion, and Black Hole has the combined power of every villain from Pissard to Dune, making him many times this. All Stars New Stage's Shadow varies from being stomped en masse by individual precure to requiring a 9 person combination attack to defeat it. He could be 3-C for his stronger parts, though.

Even if you discount that last paragraph, DokiDoki features a 5x statement that makes everyone after Shadow Galaxy level.

TL;DR: Multi Solar System Level base Dark King, Sparkle Bracelets Cures and stronger villains to Multi Solar System level+, All Stars characters to Galaxy level.
 
My blogs were used!!! I'm so Happy!!!

On to proper discussions, looks pretty good at least to get the idea of scaling. I hope to make a blog about the Futari wa low-2-C feat and hopefully it will be put together in a way that it will be accepted as low-2C.

Notes:

1) I would think if you were to give the Sparkle Bracelets a low multiplier that it would be 3x due to their superoity over the Rainbow Bracelets which were stronger than the Prisim stone enchanced fusion of the Seeds of Darkness.

2)DokiDoki actually has a 10x statement with the Blood Ring Selfish (and they'd actually be over it as Rikka unintentionally one-shotted one).
 
Can you post that here?

While I said "All Stars characters" in the TL;DR, the summoned villains from the DX series only get 4-A to 4-A+.
 
In All Stars yes due to scaling above Melody and Ryhthm who scale above a stronger Freezen and Frozen. Can't say much about in Max Heart since at the end they should scale above the Marble Screw Max Sparkle while in the Sparkle Bracelets, but nothing to my knowledge indactes that would scale them above the bracelets themselves.
 
Max sparkle is stronger than the cures individually, so there's that. By the way, judging by how negligible the increase seemed in all stars dx3, I'd reason that the Sparkle Bracelets add a fixed value to their attack potency, rather than being relative to it.
 
Again, mutiplers can't be used because they don't add up in the franchise. What is actually indicated that he's x2 powerful with the Prism Stone? It's best to leave the profiles the way they are.
 
Sorry but no. I really don't think it works that way. Now if at least two calc members approve of this, then we can further discuss this topic.

I prefer it if Dark King has two seprate keys. One in Base and the other after being Revived. We can give him the 4-A rating in the latter key.
 
No, I just didn't want the calc to go to waste, especially in case there's a revision that could imply otherwise for the universe shaking feat. Plus, it will make the transition to 4-A much more natural compared to most of the characters in the verse since its from 4-B to 4-A.
 
Speaking of pre-revival keys, Michiru and Kaoru will need them once we figure out scaling and tiers for people who aren't Goyan-level.
 
That leaves Cure Black and Cure White's tiers. I would suggest an at most 4-A rating, as while they are immensely below Dark King and power of light seeds, they can still consistently tank attacks from them.
 
Let's not take that statement to heart as it doesn't mean anything due to being a statement exclusive to the season. Remember that we have to seperate their stats from their own season to All Stars. Otherwise, every single Cure since then would have been 4-A, possibly Low 2-C as soon as another season started, making their feats and stats in their own season redundant.
 
If we discount the series entirely, then the Cures would lack several abilities each. We have to remember that while we don't treat all stars as cannon to the series (with one exception), we cannot and should not do the reverse.

I would say that we could scale the cures to past ones, especially given the recent influx in crossovers, but Star Twinkle seems determined to establish itself as a separate universe.
 
No. Again, that will render the exclusive feats redudant and the profiles an inconsistent, unjust, and complete mess. This was one of the reasons why the Pretty Cure profiles were taken down the last time and we are not going repeat that same mistake. Statements that came from the season, stays in the season. Period. Applying it into the All Stars series is illogical and doesn't make sense, especially when they aren't even related. If there's nothing to add beyond that 10x whatever statement, then we can conclude this.
 
It's more consistant than the characrets being tier 7 to tier 5 dispite consistently keeping up with tier 2s, especially considering the recent seasons featuring the next season's main heroine, who proves as if not stronger than the older mahou shoujo.
This was one of the reasons why the Pretty Cure profiles were taken down the last time and we are not going repeat that same mistake. Statements that came from the season, stays in the season. Period. Applying it into the All Stars series is illogical and doesn't make sense, especially when they aren't even related.
Oh, but Nagisa, I remember everything, too. I remember how we attended our teacher's wedding, how we acted as romeo and juliet during the culture festival, how we joined a singing contest and how Nagisa's socks are just a little smelly.
If there's nothing to add beyond that 10x whatever statement, then we can conclude this.
Now you speak the truth. EDIT: or not. I was expecting this to get it accepted.. Only if you want to discuss lifting strength.
 
Wait, there's that 2x multiplier thing that SuperSaiyanKieran mentioned.

While, you're right, we should keep in-series Precure, I have thought about making separate profiles for all stars.
 
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