Post-SGW Shadow Vs. Hallelujah

[Blueblur24]

Shadow the hedgehog Vs. Hallelujah

Both 2-A

Who wins and why ?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Doesn't Dante one shot?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Shadow definitely outhaxes, but Dante is infinitely above baseline. I wonder how useful teleport spam is on this level.

 

[Blueblur24]

How far into 2-A is he ?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Shadow definitely outhaxes, but Dante is infinitely above baseline. I wonder how useful teleport spam is on this level.

 

[LightinAnt]

This is a hax stomp, Dante literally can't do anything to match Shadow

 

[Blueblur24]

Dante still has state debuffs, ap, instant death, and almighty attacks all of which shadow has no resistance to.

How likely is dante to use almighty attacks ?

 

[LightinAnt]

Dante still has state debuffs, ap, instant death, and almighty attacks all of which shadow has no resistance to.
How likely is dante to use almighty attacks ?

That's be implying that Dante doesn't already have the AP advantage which he does, but that doesn't mean anything if he gets haxxed to death or has no counter to stuff Shadow has which he doesn't

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I mean, Shadow lacks any sort of regen that prevents Dante from one-shotting.

Although he can dodge Dante's bullets with teleport spam.

Shadow also likes to abuse his Chaos powers and Dante has no answer to conceptual manipulation, so I say Shadow takes this.

 

[Blueblur24]

How likely is shadow to start with conceptual manipulation?

 

[Blueblur24]

Also shadow doesn't have any answers to dante's hax either to be honest. If he were to start of with either instant death or almighty attacks he could still win.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Normal Chaos energy attacks can destroy concepts. Shadow only needs to think "I want you dead" and hit Dante.

 

[Blueblur24]

Well going by that, this probably is a stomp or either very decisive.

If this is a stomp I will close and remove it.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

It'll be a quick fight but not a stomp, as they can both easily kill each other.

 

[LightinAnt]

Dante already has the AP advantage, the abilities you listed are only there to bypass durability, literally makes no difference here

Dante gets haxxed to death and has no counters to anything, i.e this is a stomp

 

[Blueblur24]

His instant death abilities will work on shadow and I thought that almighty attacks were pretty much one hit kill moves.

If anything this boils down to who does what first.

 

[LightinAnt]

Stinger(Instand Death) is a melee attack, again that doesn't mean anything when he already has the AP advantage, Shadow just outclasses him blank and likes to use Chaos Control anyway so this doesn't matter either

 

[Blueblur24]

Ok well if dante does get out classed here what about if I switch him out for demi-fiend ?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Didn't Dante kinda beat Demi-Fiend though?

 

[LightinAnt]

Yeah that's a better matchup

 

[LightinAnt]

Didn't Dante kinda beat Demi-Fiend though?

Yeah because plot, Demifiend outhaxxes him realistically speaking

 

[Blueblur24]

Alright I will switch to demi-fiend ?

 

[LightinAnt]

Yeah go ahead

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Demi-Fiend is not revised yet like the other SMT characters

 

[LightinAnt]

Demi-Fiend is not revised yet like the other SMT characters

There are revisions going on? Can you link me the thread?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

the revsion are not going on.Demi0Fiend was left out in the revsions i guess

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

What's Demi-Fiend's leading move?

 

[MYHERO]

It's rather unclear considering its from a game after all where the player can choose, but in the boss battle he gets, he uses Javelin rain in which he rains death on his opponents.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

the revsion are not going on.Demi0Fiend was left out in the revsions i guess

I asked Ultima about the Nocturne profiles and he/she/it said he will revise them in time (this was a month or so ago).

 

[MYHERO]

What is the revision going to be about? Upgrades to 1-C I assume?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I meant like a clean up, because the profiles are lacking and don't have explanation of some abilities.

Also were do they stay in the scaling chain.

 

[Jaakuace44]

A lot of SMT profiles have yet to be properly updated. Demi-fiend's page in particular is still noticably bare compared to, say, Nanashi or Aleph.

I'd choose a profile that's more up to date if you want a better match.

 

[Blueblur24]

I don't know much about smt but I will look and see.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Still continue?

 

[Jaakuace44]

Not unless Demi-fiend's switched out, I wouldn't think.

Metatron might be a better pick.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Likely

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

>Metatron.

I hope you're joking.

 

[Blueblur24]

I switched to Hallelujah is he a good match ?

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

I switched to Hallelujah is he a good match ?

No

 

[Blueblur24]

How come is his page outdated to ?