possibly 1A/Likely 1A for ruphas

[Fixxed]

The reason is simple, ruphas is Conceptually stronger than alovenus which is L1A character.

However, Ruphas began to push back with her sword, while Alovenus showed signs of impatience on her face for the first time.

This is strange. I can’t possibly lose. I can’t be pushed back.

She should have been increasing her power according to her opponent. Naturally, Ruphas was doing the same thing, but while she was doing so, Alovenus was also repeating it. Therefore, they should be neither superior nor inferior.

So why was she being pushed back? Why was she losing?

“A quarrel (game) between children…That’s what you called it, right, Alovenus?”

Ruphas pushed Alovenus back with even greater force. They were doing the same thing by repeatedly configuring their settings to be above each other’s settings. However, Ruphas was doing it slightly faster. Alovenus was increasing the speed at which she became stronger. The scale was increasing. But Ruphas was still one step ahead. Somehow, there was a difference between them. What was the reason for this?

No matter how much alovenus Infinitely transcended herself, ruphas still above her


Anti feats:

- I—I’m compromising…? Are you saying that I’m giving up?”

“No, you aren’t compromising. You’re not giving up, but you’re not obsessed enough with victory.”

-Ruphas and Alovenus had different goals. The Goddess only sought someone who was her equal, while the rebel was aiming beyond that

^because Alovenus has no desire to win, therefore Ruphas is able to kill permanently Alovenus.

Because of that, i just said "Possibly 1A/ Likely 1A For ruphas Instead 1A"

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

It's still Low 1A, I'm sure. Because the major characteristic of Tier 1 is that it cannot be reached by stacking larger infinities on top of one another, to be 1-A she needs to like completely transcend infinite dimensions/hierarchies on a conceptual level, something like no matter how many dimensions or hierarchies there are, the final 1A will always be beyond that. Worst case it seems that the quote itself is debunking the notion because they are just stacking themselves with uncountable infinities of power at a faster speed. To me, she's only increasing her powers by infinite in her already predetermined hierarchy in Low 1-A. Long shot it is a good inverse speed feat nothing else.

 

[Catzlaflame]

Disagreed, specifically because of this:

“Ruphas pushed Alovenus back with even greater force. They were doing the same thing by repeatedly configuring their settings to be above each other’s settings. However, Ruphas was doing it slightly faster.”

from what i see it’s not that ruphas is inheritly above alovenus, hes just increasing his power faster, for it to be conceptual trancendence they would have to be increasing at equal rates, and ruphas would still have to be stronger, if it’s just a speed difference it just means that if alovenus could increase her power at the same rate as ruphas they would be equal in power.

 

[Lormac_CC]

I am pretty sure this has been discussed before

 

[Ovy7]

. . . . . . . those quotes are the reason why Alovenus and Ruphas are ever-increasing in 1-B up to Low 1-A in the first place.

 

[Fixxed]

Ok thanks

 

[Tarang123]

Obviously, I have to disagree. We don't really know the difference in power between them and even then, they were equal or at least comparable as the quote seems to imply, so definitely not.