Possible MASSIVE Naruto Upgrades

[Antvasima]

Reppuzan and Geynbleiddd seem to make sense.

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

Light Fang was swiped, which is what the jutsu is used for, to "bisect". What happened in the Anime is irrelevant. The series is consistently MHS+, which is what they are rated at.

Kinshiki and Momoshiki being "threats" to Kaguya is vague. We don't know the exact reasons why. Plus, Kaguya is only Planet level with her ultimate trump card, not normally or casually.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Reppuzan and Geynbleiddd seem to make sense.

I agree with them as well.

 

[Omimi]

In the manga Naruto seems to be reacting to Madara's head movement and not the expansion of the beam itself, so there is another point against Lightspeed Naruto.

if its true then for that to happe

1st madara have to turn his head to left then fire the Light Fang then he have to turn his had to the right

but that didnt happen

we have 2 opinon on that

1st naruto react expansion of the beam itself then he also react to Madara's head movement

this 1 is backup by anime 2nd canon

and madara was looking at naruto( backup by manga)

2nd Naruto seems to be reacting to Madara's head movement

this 1 is backup by nothing

 

[RoyGundam]

I still don't get why Gai isn't practically lightspeed for his "bending space" feat (And yes, it was space, not air, look up the word used and it's meanings). All I'm getting here are weak rebuttals ...

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

It's clear that Naruto reacted to Madara's head swing.

 

[RoyGundam]

@Gwyn The anime shows it differently

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

The manga is the main cannon source.

 

[Omimi]

manga 1st cannon aniime 2nd cannon >our opinion

 

[Omimi]

It's clear that Naruto reacted to Madara's head swing

did read what i said

if its true then for that to happen

for your claim u need to prove that madara did this(1st madara have to turn his head to left then fire the Light Fang then he have to turn his had to the right)

but we know that madara was looking at naruto his haed was straight at naruto

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

If i understand this correctly you say that Madara would have to turn his head twice?

Yes Madara was initially looking at Naruto but what we see on the image is Naruto moving on a way to dodge the swing of the beam, not the beam itself.

This isn't even the only problem with this:

i.Why should we accept a statement from the databooks that have already been rejected as inaccurate and full of hyperboles.

ii.Why would a lightning technique travel at lightspeed.

 

[Omimi]

i.Why should we accept a statement from the databooks that have already been rejected as inaccurate and full of hyperboles.

i am not asking

but then we do accept other databooks

+ it wont be hyperboles.anymoe if u accept this

kcm naruto = Mach 57161 if dont accept ay as lightning speed user then u can use Power-scaling

if we use lightning speed from Official Translation then the ruselt will be at least 10x(kcm naruto speed)

atleast 50% SoL

if kcm naruto has speed = 50% SoL its resonable to think that Light Fang being Lightspeed was not hyperbole

 

[Davidsteel1]

I'm sorry but y is this still being discussed? It's already been established that the light fang feat isn't going to be accepted or considered a LS feat, as I see it now this argument is going on in a loop and will eventually start grating on the patience of everyone. I'd advise to simply drop the subject and either close the thread or discuss something else.

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

The mach 57000 calc is calc stacking and the rest of what you are saying makes very little sense.

 

[DodoNova2]

I am a little Me immisce but ..... New calc naruto the last speed:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DodoNova2/Naruto_Save_Toneri_Speed_Calc

 

[Omimi]

The mach 57000 calc is calc stacking and the rest of what you are saying makes very little sense.

its not stacking its Power-scaling

even if u dont agree ay has real lightning then

we can still use Power-scaling on ay

here

Sasuke's Perception scale to near blind itachi's Perception

sasuke Perception should be at least = to near blind itachi's Perception if not greater(low-ball)

tachi was able to react to kirin/lightning but sasuke fail to react to ay top speed

it should clear that out

ay top speed >sasuke reaction>Kirin speed

i think its resonable that ay top speed faster then Kirin speed/lightning

i dont see any reson to reject it

cause it simple Power-scale

and he(ay) himself state that he used top speed on naruto

+ ay said only naruto and minato was able to out run his top speed

 

[DodoNova2]

And since my calc on KCM naruto is bad, what should I correct it?

 

[Omimi]

And since my calc on KCM naruto is bad, what should I correct it?

other then math

u said in your blog this

Sasuke's Perception scale to near blind itachi's Perception

tachi was able to react to kirin/lightning but sasuke fail to react to ay top speed

it should clear that out

ay top speed >sasuke reaction>Kirin speed

i dont see any reson to reject it

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Gwynbleiddd, and this is a banned topic. Perhaps we should close this thread?

 

[DodoNova2]

Please wait a bit, I would like to have answer for the calc of KCM naruto

 

[Lina_Shields]

You mean this one?

Actually, I am going to close this thread. This is already considered to be a banned topic here on the wiki, so no need to continue this.

 

[DodoNova2]

Okay Lina, You can then close this thread