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Possible Major Soul Calibur Tier Revisions
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Bump. Okay then @Dragonmasterxyz, since Ant is essentially saying the 4-A Upgrades can be applied, who actively scales to this in perhaps either one or both timelines of Soul Calibur ?
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Algol and Night Terror
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Really, they are the only ones ? I'm certain you said you would go over who else scales to it on the discussion thread once it got accepted [which it did] .
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Well, the 4-A bit is nothing more than a replacement for the 5-A bit we had before which only scaled to those two.
The main thing would be speed though if accepted. Also, there is still another scaling thread for lower tiers and the New Timeline cast as the New Timeline cast Mid tiers scale to the Original Timeline Mid Tiers. So I'll make that this weekend.
The main thing would be speed though if accepted. Also, there is still another scaling thread for lower tiers and the New Timeline cast as the New Timeline cast Mid tiers scale to the Original Timeline Mid Tiers. So I'll make that this weekend.
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Where's that thread curiously
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Dragonmasterxyz said:
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So what are we gonna do with speed now
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Dragon will probably make a thread about it around this weekend or so.
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At least Soul Calibur wont be as slow as they used to be now, they suffered from speed a lot back then
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Well, the calcs still need to be accepted. I'll message calc members later on. I...also forgot all about this thread cuz of other things...
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Managed to ask and do what you said about a thread?
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It seems the 4-A characters have been upgraded. All that's left is the speed and the 7-B SC6 New Timeline upgrades as far as I'm aware.
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Yah and Dragon said he will make a thread about the speed and new timeline thing
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This virus stuff has kinda made doing classwork a little bit harder seeing as many things we were working on are being changed. The speed will be put on hold until probably May as that will be post-graduation for me. I can however make the scaling thread between New and Old Timelines, however I plan to make Cassandra's file first so we have a point of reference.
Sorry about the backup here.
Sorry about the backup here.
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But was the speed calcs accepted at least?
Well then take your time and stay safe
Well then take your time and stay safe
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I've asked a couple calc members to evaluate them. The issues with the feats are as follows.
-Never actually explained and thus we only have the animation to determine if it's true lightning or not.
-The nature of the dodging relies on gameplay which may not be usable for calcs, although we may discuss them being MHS for simply being able to react to lightning, but I will ask the calc members this as I dunno if we do this for other verses.
Overall, my stance on the lightning feats are neutral due to how problematic they may end up being. So it really depends on what the calc group actually says about it. This is why I'm not pushing hard for it despite how much I would love Soul Calibur to get out of Supersonic+...especially when they have so many Lightning Attacks.
-Never actually explained and thus we only have the animation to determine if it's true lightning or not.
-The nature of the dodging relies on gameplay which may not be usable for calcs, although we may discuss them being MHS for simply being able to react to lightning, but I will ask the calc members this as I dunno if we do this for other verses.
Overall, my stance on the lightning feats are neutral due to how problematic they may end up being. So it really depends on what the calc group actually says about it. This is why I'm not pushing hard for it despite how much I would love Soul Calibur to get out of Supersonic+...especially when they have so many Lightning Attacks.
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How can a verse with so many great things lack so much in one thing....
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No worries. It is perfectly understandable. Coronavirus has been limiting my activity here as well, due to a huge influx of classwork and just the virus in general.Dragonmasterxyz said:
Please take your time.
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You know doesnt Night Terror shoot a laser in a cutscene and you gotta press a button to dodge in SC3? Could be useful for speed, also castlevania, DMC and Zelda does the same if i remember, why would it be for SC any different?
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Because I don't recall SC giving proof it's a real laser at actual light speed
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Pretty sure Nightmare has light manipulation, like that beam he shoots at the sky
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Is it actual light?
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Not 100% sure, but i think they called it light, the narration i think
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So some unfortunate news, the calcs were rejected so as of now, MHS Soul Calibur is literally just out of reach. Let's hope we get some feats in the future...
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OOF
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Next Week I'll post the Cassandra file and then make the next CRT for scaling the New Timeline to the Old Timeline.
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What about Night Terror beam i mentioned, at least for the stronger characters a change could be possible?
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I don't think it has enough to prove it's a real laser.
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Doesnt Nightmare have light manipulation? Night Terror could certainly be shooting that
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Well, Light Manipulation =/= Automatically Lightspeed.
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I mean i dont think it goes against any standard, i say it is worth checking it a little
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Could you get a clip of it for reference? Even if accepted, it would only scale to that one move from Night Terror.
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Light Manipulation that is dubiously light speed on top of the next best feat being supersonic is also a massive outlier even if SoL was true.
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The main issue isn't a character managing to dodge, is proof that such a thing is lightspeed.
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Thats why i said i cam be worth a shot to check about this
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I mean, if you understand the standards for proving that light-like attacks actually behave like light, you could try finding evidence that it is truly light or should be treated like that.
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