Possible god of war upgrade

[LowTierKnight]

This statement might have been discussed and dismissed as too vague, well i stumbled upon author statements somewhat clearing it up

Athena stating she is on a higher existence


author statements clearing up what is meant by higher existence


kratos with poh is shown to be a threat to her even in her higher existence state (contains spoilers for gow 3)

 

[LowTierKnight]

Bump

 

[LowTierKnight]

@KLOL506 @GilverTheProtoAngelo i would apperciate your thoughts on this

 

[Thelastmlg]

From what i understood, he said that becauase she was selfless, she acended to a higher plane, got stronger and then became as bad as everyone because she saw everything from a higher place.

If this is all he said, little hard for me to listen to it rn since bus, it ain't tier 1 since it doesn't imply a infinite gap or reality-ficition difference, she would just scale above everyone else besides kratos and those that scale to him i guess

Also normal members can't tag others, you need to contact them directly on their walls

 

[LowTierKnight]

From what i understood, he said that becauase she was selfless, she acended to a higher plane, got stronger and then became as bad as everyone because she saw everything from a higher place.

If this is all he said, little hard for me to listen to it rn since bus, it ain't tier 1 since it doesn't imply a infinite gap or reality-ficition difference, she would just scale above everyone else besides kratos and those that scale to him i guess

The upgrade is not based upon wog, its based on athena stating she is on a higher existence which sounds vague by itself, wog is just confirming she is on a higher plane of existence

 

[LowTierKnight]

Also normal members can't tag others, you need to contact them directly on their walls

Thanks for letting me know

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

But what are you proposing?

 

[LowTierKnight]

But what are you proposing?

Atleast 4D or 5D greek kratos due to athena being on a higher plane of existence compared to everyone else

 

[Everything12]

Atleast 4D or 5D greek kratos due to athena being on a higher plane of existence compared to everyone else

Nope, neither Athena nor the WoG give enough context to give out 4D or 5D, or even Higher-Dimensional Existence.

 

[LowTierKnight]

Nope, neither Athena nor the WoG give enough context to give out 4D or 5D, or even Higher-Dimensional Existence.

Fair enough.

 

[KLOL506]

Nope, neither Athena nor the WoG give enough context to give out 4D or 5D, or even Higher-Dimensional Existence.

Nah, I'd say HDE is definitely on the table if nothing else. Though yeah, it isn't enough to be Low 1-C (Though Athena's case has more solid ground than Yggdrasil due to actually mentioning "higher existence" than Yggdrasil's "transcends space and time" and even having references in Ragnarok via the Green Rift and Mask to be a place of "infinite knowledge" and having the "truth of creation").

And being 4-D wouldn't matter anyway since Gods destroy 4-D structures.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

And being 4-D wouldn't matter anyway since Gods destroy 4-D structures.

But Athena having HDE would matter and its something worth noting on the profile if true

 

[LowTierKnight]

Nah, I'd say HDE is definitely on the table if nothing else. Though yeah, it isn't enough to be Low 1-C (Though Athena's case has more solid ground than Yggdrasil due to actually mentioning "higher existence" than Yggdrasil's "transcends space and time" and even having references in Ragnarok via the Green Rift and Mask to be a place of "infinite knowledge" and having the "truth of creation").

And being 4-D wouldn't matter anyway since Gods destroy 4-D structures.

and i got another addition for gow (the underworld being an abstract concept), since im too lazy to make another thread ama just post it here

 

[KLOL506]

But Athena having HDE would matter and its something worth noting on the profile if true

Not for AP without enough context it wouldn't. At best it'd just be an ability added.

 

[KLOL506]

and i got another addition for gow (the underworld being an abstract concept), since im too lazy to make another thread ama just post it here

Underworld (Tartarus) has no profile due not being combat applicable really. A location with nothing notable to index about it.

 

[LowTierKnight]

But Athena having HDE would matter and its something worth noting on the profile if true

right, and it makes sense for it to be HDE, since zeus who literally looks the same as her in the astral state was able to one shot kratos and kratos needed poh to fight back

 

[LowTierKnight]

Underworld (Tartarus) has no profile due not being combat applicable really. A location with nothing notable to index about it.

Well, worth noting for me, as well as abstract existence for chaos

 

[KLOL506]

Well, worth noting for me, as well as abstract existence for chaos

Primordials already have Abstract Existence.

 

[LowTierKnight]

Primordials already have Abstract Existence.

didnt notice that, anyways can you close the thread?

 

[KLOL506]

didnt notice that, anyways can you close the thread?

Aight. I can ask a mod to do so.

@KingTempest Would you mind?

 

[Planck69]

I AM HERE

 

[Everything12]

Nah, I'd say HDE is definitely on the table if nothing else. Though yeah, it isn't enough to be Low 1-C (Though Athena's case has more solid ground than Yggdrasil due to actually mentioning "higher existence" than Yggdrasil's "transcends space and time" and even having references in Ragnarok via the Green Rift and Mask to be a place of "infinite knowledge" and having the "truth of creation").

And being 4-D wouldn't matter anyway since Gods destroy 4-D structures.

Higher-Dimensional Existence requires the higher dimension to either meet the Wiki's standard for a higher dimension (qualitative difference), or to have an additional dimensional axis (like X, Y, Z + another).

This doesn't have the context for either of that.

 

[Alonik]

Flowery language at best, asides from the facts that gods already has 4D interaction, being higher than that would need an concrete evidence for the "higher existence" not being flowery plus evidence for being qualitatively higher.

 

[Planck69]

It's already confirmed to be a level of being that grants power beyond the rest of the setting. That being said, that's not enough for qualitative gap and it'd need further elaboration as to it's nature.

Should I close this again?

 

[Gasper]

You can close it