Poppy Playtime wall level

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

It came to my attention that I should have posted the below here and not CRT.

Ok, so this feat was claimed as rejected because "the model didn't change when she hit it", this is blatently false. The 2 images shown are cherry picked to show that the generator was broken beforehand and after, this feat at 4:32 in the video displays that the generator, in fact, was not broken beforehand, but only AFTER miss delight hit it. I'm not saying the original calc was undeniably valid, just that it needs someone else to help affirm it's rating, because around 4:36 ish in the video SHOWS the generator denting because of her attack, this should be added to the verse page as a wall level feat, even if it has to be recalced by someone else, no way in hell is it anything less than low wall level.

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

Bump

 

[Mr. Bambu]

@Flashlight237

It does look like the model not changing was a fault of the video used, rather than being an objective presentation of the feat. I don't think it's fragmentation, though, it just sorta dents.

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

@Flashlight237

It does look like the model not changing was a fault of the video used, rather than being an objective presentation of the feat. I don't think it's fragmentation, though, it just sorta dents.

It's def not a frag, but it's definitely a wall level feat to bend and twist all those thick metal pieces, so I was hoping to have some help either passing this calc, or getting a new acceptable one

 

[Mr. Bambu]

It might be. The dented bits don't seem that thick, really, but I do agree it is probably wall level. Still. Let's get Flashlight's opinions, with this new perspective provided by the video.

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

It might be. The dented bits don't seem that thick, really, but I do agree it is probably wall level. Still. Let's get Flashlight's opinions, with this new perspective provided by the video.

Are you getting Flashlight, or do I ping them?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I pinged him up above. Only staff members can ping.

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

I pinged him up above. Only staff members can ping.

Ok, thank you so much!

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

I pinged him up above. Only staff members can ping.

Could you also get this verified?

 

[Flashlight237]

I went back in and looked it over. Yeah, back when I looked at the feat the first time, the person who made the blog used a video with no model changes whatsoever. Looking over both the new video and the test footage in the blog comments, both the gameplay and the test footage paint a different picture, with the former showing denting and the latter showing that the pipes were just displaced.

Unfortunately we don't exactly have guidance concerning denting feats; in fact, that was what @Agnaa was trying to figure out a while back. I wouldn't call this Wall Level; but I don't see any need to deny the rating either. I'm just on the fence about it, given similarly large metal objects like car hoods were dented with Street Level attacks (like bashing a car with a crowbar or a bat).

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

I went back in and looked it over. Yeah, back when I looked at the feat the first time, the person who made the blog used a video with no model changes whatsoever. Looking over both the new video and the test footage in the blog comments, both the gameplay and the test footage paint a different picture, with the former showing denting and the latter showing that the pipes were just displaced.

Unfortunately we don't exactly have guidance concerning denting feats; in fact, that was what @Agnaa was trying to figure out a while back. I wouldn't call this Wall Level; but I don't see any need to deny the rating either. I'm just on the fence about it, given similarly large metal objects like car hoods were dented with Street Level attacks (like bashing a car with a crowbar or a bat).

It's more about the fact that so much stuff was affected by such a small thing hitting the generator, prime Mike Tyson couldn't do that in 50 punches, let alone one like miss Delight, on top of Catnap's 48 mph conservative speeds overall giving a wall level off just sheer KE

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

Catnap's 48 mph conservative speeds overall giving a wall level off just sheer KE

I calced that by using my obviously lesser 270 lbs to get that wall level, and Catnap is obviously WAYYY heavier

 

[Flashlight237]

It's more about the fact that so much stuff was affected by such a small thing hitting the generator, prime Mike Tyson couldn't do that in 50 punches, let alone one like miss Delight, on top of Catnap's 48 mph conservative speeds overall giving a wall level off just sheer KE

1. We generally don't base AP on KE.
2. Again, we don't exactly have any guidance on how to calculate anything regarding denting. At best we only have comparable irl things (ex. the car thing I pointed out). If we did, we would have told you how to calculate it the first chance we got.

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

1. We generally don't base AP on KE.
2. Again, we don't exactly have any guidance on how to calculate anything regarding denting. At best we only have comparable irl things (ex. the car thing I pointed out). If we did, we would have told you how to calculate it the first chance we got.

1: wouldn't that mean something for dura, especially since ramming techs are a very common thing in the verse?

2. I just couldn't imagine something like a moose being able to do something like that tho.... Maybe a rhino or elephant, but that's due to wall level

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

Do I just wait now or do I get someone else? I've never gotten this far before...

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Well. We could give 9-B as a baseline, given I do agree this is a superhuman feat and we reserve the ability to give baseline 9-B for things deemed to be superhuman. As it stands, if you want a specific value, we'll need some calc that actually represents what the feat is. I'm not aware of what the calc method would be, personally, so I'm sorry to say I can't help much there.

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

Well. We could give 9-B as a baseline, given I do agree this is a superhuman feat and we reserve the ability to give baseline 9-B for things deemed to be superhuman. As it stands, if you want a specific value, we'll need some calc that actually represents what the feat is. I'm not aware of what the calc method would be, personally, so I'm sorry to say I can't help much there.

Bro, if I can finally get the bigger bodies to 9-B then I'm happy on the AP/DURA end, I'll handle speed in my other eval request, how can we go about getting that accepted and added to the verse page? Can I do it or do I have to wait for other people's approval?

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

So how do I start getting the approval?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

With just getting baseline 9-B? You'll need a second evaluating staff member in this thread (thread moderator, administrator, or bureaucrat- but try not to bother the bureaucrats too much, they're busier than most and should only be called as an absolute last resort). If they approve, then 9-B can be applied.

If you'd like to try to figure out a calc, I recommend speaking with DontTalk, Ugarik, Executor_N0, or Agnaa- they are, I believe, the most likely to be able to help with what you're going for. Once you have a calculation, it can be evaluated by a CGM. If approved, it can then be added to a CRT (this one, or some other one if you'd rather get this accepted and work on the fine details in a later one) and then you'd need to get that CRT approved.

It can be an exhausting process, but them's the works.

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

With just getting baseline 9-B? You'll need a second evaluating staff member in this thread (thread moderator, administrator, or bureaucrat- but try not to bother the bureaucrats too much, they're busier than most and should only be called as an absolute last resort). If they approve, then 9-B can be applied.

If you'd like to try to figure out a calc, I recommend speaking with DontTalk, Ugarik, Executor_N0, or Agnaa- they are, I believe, the most likely to be able to help with what you're going for. Once you have a calculation, it can be evaluated by a CGM. If approved, it can then be added to a CRT (this one, or some other one if you'd rather get this accepted and work on the fine details in a later one) and then you'd need to get that CRT approved.

It can be an exhausting process, but them's the works.

How do I get a second evaluating staff member? Can you ping one or can I?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Normal users aren't able to, you'd want to just go to their wall. A list of staff members and their roles can be found here.

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

Normal users aren't able to, you'd want to just go to their wall. A list of staff members and their roles can be found here.

Something important I need you to either reject or give the go for is, the verse is considerably more grounded than most, the bigger you are, the stronger. So miss delight scales to baseline wall level, but can the bigger bodies be:
At least Wall level, likely higher
Or can this at least apply to Catnap, as (and I'll get a scan later) he is called the Prototypes strongest enforcer or something among those lines. And the bigger bodies ought to be stronger than miss delight off principle right? So, yay or nay?

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

Something important I need you to either reject or give the go for is, the verse is considerably more grounded than most, the bigger you are, the stronger. So miss delight scales to baseline wall level, but can the bigger bodies be:
At least Wall level, likely higher
Or can this at least apply to Catnap, as (and I'll get a scan later) he is called the Prototypes strongest enforcer or something among those lines. And the bigger bodies ought to be stronger than miss delight off principle right? So, yay or nay?

Or a POSSIBILITY maybe?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Something important I need you to either reject or give the go for is, the verse is considerably more grounded than most, the bigger you are, the stronger. So miss delight scales to baseline wall level, but can the bigger bodies be:
At least Wall level, likely higher
Or can this at least apply to Catnap, as (and I'll get a scan later) he is called the Prototypes strongest enforcer or something among those lines. And the bigger bodies ought to be stronger than miss delight off principle right? So, yay or nay?

From that logic alone, I'm gonna have to reject it. I'm not a Poppy Playtime guy but like. It is not grounded at all. I don't mind characters upscaling if they are demonstrably stronger, of course.

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

From that logic alone, I'm gonna have to reject it. I'm not a Poppy Playtime guy but like. It is not grounded at all. I don't mind characters upscaling if they are demonstrably stronger, of course.

When I say grounded I more mean in the fact that there isn't really any magic or things of that nature aside from the poppy smoke. But Catnap does at least have that statement I'm pretty sure directly from the prototype while he is pretending to be Ollie that he is the strongest enforcer, which should mean he upscales off that alone due to all the other toys fearing him, as well as the size difference but I can understand if the size difference isn't enough.

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

Do I have to ask you to go to this thread to validate superhuman speed or can we do that here?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I commented on that calc earlier, I can't confirm it because it has obfuscated the images somewhat. If they can be posted somewhere that I can get a closer look, I can try to evaluate it.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I don't have access. It would be preferable if you could just upload the images to Imgur or something.

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

I don't have access. It would be preferable if you could just upload the images to Imgur or something.

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

imgur up

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

henlo?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Yeah, sorry, other requests + real life stuff made me forget this, don't take it personally. I'll try to get to it, I'm at work currently and can't do it now.

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

Yeah, sorry, other requests + real life stuff made me forget this, don't take it personally. I'll try to get to it, I'm at work currently and can't do it now.

Np man, just acting as a reminder, I'm not in a rush for something that'll wind up happening anyway

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

Just making sure this thread doesnt die, I contacted Agnaa

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

Yeah, sorry, other requests + real life stuff made me forget this, don't take it personally. I'll try to get to it, I'm at work currently and can't do it now.

Hello, just checking in to see if you could take a look at and validate the superhuman speed thing

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Well. We could give 9-B as a baseline, given I do agree this is a superhuman feat and we reserve the ability to give baseline 9-B for things deemed to be superhuman.

This is fine with me

Until the calc for superhuman speed gets accepted, nothing I can do there.

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

This is fine with me

Until the calc for superhuman speed gets accepted, nothing I can do there.

OMG thanks, so now do I send this to Ant or what? When can I apply this verse wide?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

OMG thanks, so now do I send this to Ant or what? When can I apply this verse wide?

You can apply it right now.

 

[DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt]

You can apply it right now.

Thank you so much, one question, how can one become an Admin anyhow? There are a lot of verses that I could help, but the people working on them have a lot to do, so I was wondering if I could help by becoming an Admin