Peppa Pig vs Hamlet

[ShockingPsychic]

get it. cuz ham. cuz his name is hamlet. and pigs are ham. it's actually really funny. do you get it? why aren't you laughing? do you get it? get it cuz like pigs are made of ham and his name is hamlet. you see it's funny because li

THE PRINCE OF DENMARK

VS.

THE PIG WHO LIKES TO JUMP

Hamlet is 60 joules (10-B)

Peppa is 796 joules (9-C)

Imma be honest, I don't know if Hamlet needs the sword for this to be even. He's a grown man with combat experience fighting a toddler who can hit like a truck, seems even enough to me. AP difference is 13 × though (I'll add the sword if it's a stomp)

THE PRINCE:

THE PIG:

 

[ShockingPsychic]

bump

 

[Mariogoods]

I thing the sword is needed. The AP difference is typically considered as stomp.

 

[AThe1412]

Judging by Hamlet's weakness, I don't think he would want to hurt an innocent child even if said child is a talking bipedal pig. Is there any chance he can win by talking Peppa out of fighting him? It's a legitimate win condition for characters with Social Influencing.

 

[AThe1412]

Bump? So there's no way Hamlet can take on the pig with that massive AP difference but I'm willing to bet that he can talk her out of fighting him which shouldn't be too hard since she's a child. Voting the Ham Prince.

 

[ShockingPsychic]

I can give him the sword unless he doesn't need it

 

[AThe1412]

I can give him the sword unless he doesn't need it

Even when he does have the sword, I doubt he would want to hurt a toddler who has zero combat experience. He lightly cuts the tip of her finger and she's gonna scream her lungs out.

 

[Flashlight237]

Looking through this, it would seem that Peppa is the more favorable of the two to win. Peppa has higher AP, sure, but it should be noted that Peppa's jump force would exceed 3400 newtons, yet a football player can exert 1650 lbs (~7340 newtons; https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/01/12/nfl-physics-violence/ ) with a tackle, whereas Rocky Marciano can exert 925 lbs of force (4114.6 newtons) over a foot with a punch. When you compare Peppa to Rocky Marciano and even a football player, Peppa's AP of 796 joules doesn't exactly seem all that high considering she achieved that value with her entire body. Hamlet should be able to survive a tackle from Peppa quite a lot more easily than he would survive a tackle from a football player. If Hamlet gets one-shot, it's purely because VBW users need to be educated on how the use of body parts affect a character's AP rating.

Not only that, but given Hamlet's character, who is largely based on honor, Hamlet is very likely to throw the fight rather than take on Peppa. Peppa is generally more confrontational than Hamlet, as shown when Peppa told George to sod off!:



But yeah, while a tackle from Peppa is survivable due to how the use of body parts affects how AP is distributed, Peppa wins since she is generally more confrontational than Hamlet despite her being a preschool show character.

 

[AThe1412]

Looking through this, it would seem that Peppa is the more favorable of the two to win. Peppa has higher AP, sure, but it should be noted that Peppa's jump force would exceed 3400 newtons, yet a football player can exert 1650 lbs (~7340 newtons; https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/01/12/nfl-physics-violence/ ) with a tackle, whereas Rocky Marciano can exert 925 lbs of force (4114.6 newtons) over a foot with a punch. When you compare Peppa to Rocky Marciano and even a football player, Peppa's AP of 796 joules doesn't exactly seem all that high considering she achieved that value with her entire body. Hamlet should be able to survive a tackle from Peppa quite a lot more easily than he would survive a tackle from a football player. If Hamlet gets one-shot, it's purely because VBW users need to be educated on how the use of body parts affect a character's AP rating.

Not only that, but given Hamlet's character, who is largely based on honor, Hamlet is very likely to throw the fight rather than take on Peppa. Peppa is generally more confrontational than Hamlet, as shown when Peppa told George to sod off!:



But yeah, while a tackle from Peppa is survivable due to how the use of body parts affects how AP is distributed, Peppa wins since she is generally more confrontational than Hamlet despite her being a preschool show character.

Could Hamlet talk her out of fighting him since it is most likely what he's going to try because he wouldn't wanna fight a kid? If I'm not wrong, Peppa's sole wincon in her fight with Freddy was to talk him out of fighting her and the match was still added.

 

[Flashlight237]

Could Hamlet talk her out of fighting him since it is most likely what he's going to try because he wouldn't wanna fight a kid? If I'm not wrong, Peppa's sole wincon in her fight with Freddy was to talk him out of fighting her and the match was still added.

You forget that SBA match-ups generally have characters "in-character but willing to kill."

 

[Flashlight237]

A random side tangent, despite claims that Peppa is 7'1", an officially licensed theme park put Peppa's height at 3'9": https://peppapigworld.co.uk/pages/peppa-pig

Not really reliable, but at least it had something to back it up.

 

[AThe1412]

You forget that SBA match-ups generally have characters "in-character but willing to kill."

Not kill, just win by any means. I can name 2 other added matches where the character with Social Influencing won by talking their opponent out of fighting them.