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Papyrus vs Cirno
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So Cirno can't really die as long as ice exists, but Papyrus never kills during the fight against him, and that upon draining you to 1 HP left, he locks you away in his shed (though it can still be escaped due to the bars being too wide). Cirno can get discouraged which would be Papyrus' other wincon, but Cirno has a higher level of danmaku.
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Would Papyrus’s soul Manipulation down Cirno in a single hit? Dura negation and all?
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No, Undertale soul manip does not one-shot, even Sans' soul manip doesn't one-shot
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Voting Papyrus
While Cirno Danmaku and dodging skills are far above that of Papayrus but Papyrus have something will give him a big advantage and that be his blue mode, Cirno always use her flight to dodge even in fighting games, she will in massive disadvantage if she cannot fly and probably will try multiple times to fly away from bones attack but fail and end up get hit. Also with Cirno lack peviour knowledge about blue attacks, I can see her get hit by it many times and with Papyrus dura neg his attacks would be more effective. Of course Cirno still have freezing but Papyrus ready resist coldness so he will probably survive it
Oh and Papyrus have a good intelegence advantage
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How long does it usually take her to forget something? Especially something like information about an enemy's powers given in the middle of a battle?
Is she naive enough to believe Papyrus? Or bitter enough to think he's trying to trick her?
Dare I ask, but.... Context?
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When Marisa tell Cirno that she cannot freeze Laser, Cirno still try to freeze harder but after trying and see that fail, she understand and stop trying that, so the same might happen here but my point was more that Papyrus will get mang effective hits from the stars as a reason for his won
It was in The Great Fairy War, Cirno had declare war in the three faires of light and apperntly other faires too. Where Cirno had beat multiple normal faires in her way to one of the three faires of light (Star) where she just forget what she was doing at fisrt place, she even had accept Star request to play together. If it wasn't for Star telling Cirno that there is someone had declare war in the them what makes Cirno remember that she is the one that had done that and cuntinue his fight
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Tbh all of the undertale characters have resistance to soul manipulation
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By the way we are talking about Touhou Danmaku here, what the **** **** can papyrus do about it?
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This is a stomp, Papyrus has nothing on Cirno's danmaku and his own danmaku is so ridiculously easy to dodge for someone who deals with Danmaku like Cirno.
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Exept that Cirno had never fight while she unable to fly, Cirno fighting style is realy depense in her be able to fly even in the fighting games. Lacking tye ability to fly will be massive disadvantage for the Blue Fairy and she will take time to relise that she actually cannot fly
Cirno be great in dodging mutiple bullets from difrent derctions in mid-air wouldn't mean that she will also be great in jumbing over multiple big bones. She have no exprience in the kind of Danmaku that Papyrus use nor dodging Danmaku while not flying at first place
Papyrus by smarter and more tactical than Cirno would also come to play here to support Papyrus chance even more espicely that Papyrus be negating durability in every attack will make his attacks far more effective
And for Cirno attacks, at fisrt she might be more busy try to figer up that she cannot fly and will try to use ice manipulation fisrt before Bullet Hell and even when she get the chance to do so Papyrus wouldn't just be instanly destroyed since the two are realative in AP with Paprys having the edge in that and Papyrus attacks in general would be nore effective, Maybe Papyrus might use his Blue Mode in take her by surpise and won before she get the chance to attack!
In conclusion, Papyrus should take that, he resist freezing, is far more smarter, his Dura neg would make his attacks more effective and his Blue Moda in general makes Cirno unable to fight with the only fighting style she know while Papyrus use a fighting style Cirno never see like it before.Also it is unlikely that Paprys would unlucky in the Dog will stole his attack again, so Papyrus csn just blast Cirno away with his special attack!
Cirno be great in dodging mutiple bullets from difrent derctions in mid-air wouldn't mean that she will also be great in jumbing over multiple big bones. She have no exprience in the kind of Danmaku that Papyrus use nor dodging Danmaku while not flying at first place
Papyrus by smarter and more tactical than Cirno would also come to play here to support Papyrus chance even more espicely that Papyrus be negating durability in every attack will make his attacks far more effective
And for Cirno attacks, at fisrt she might be more busy try to figer up that she cannot fly and will try to use ice manipulation fisrt before Bullet Hell and even when she get the chance to do so Papyrus wouldn't just be instanly destroyed since the two are realative in AP with Paprys having the edge in that and Papyrus attacks in general would be nore effective, Maybe Papyrus might use his Blue Mode in take her by surpise and won before she get the chance to attack!
In conclusion, Papyrus should take that, he resist freezing, is far more smarter, his Dura neg would make his attacks more effective and his Blue Moda in general makes Cirno unable to fight with the only fighting style she know while Papyrus use a fighting style Cirno never see like it before.
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Why does that matter when Papyrus is dust before he can really get going? Hundreds of attacks flying at someone is LEUGUES above what Undertale can bring out, frankly the only reason Yharim even had a fair match with Marisa is because he has ridiculous stamina and survivability, Papyrus has neither of those things and is going against someone who has Touhou Danmaku, and doesn't have the range to capitalize on Cirno's 36 meters of range all that well, Supersonic+ is very good to cross 100 meters quickly and Papyrus shouldn't be all that high in the tens of meters for range.
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Because Cirno start with cold manipulation, I said that multiple times, what I character start with in a spell card match isn't the same as outside it, Cirno is one of the few character that we see what they start with outside of a spell card match in that be freezing or charging into the enemy with freezing be what she mostly start with (makes sense looking how his special ability is ice and colness). If Cirno wouod somehow fall in the ground after was flying she wouldn't attack the guy she was fighting, she will try fly again over and over that what she do in character and Papyrus will get his chance with that
Comparing Marisa with Cirno? Cirno is faaaaaaar below Marisa in both Danmaku and Danmaku dodging, Marisa had cuasualy stomp Cirno in a spell card match (skill stomp) and Cirno was the playable character in that game! Also unlike Marisa, Cirno wouldn't start with Danmaku, you can even agrue that she will take long time bofore think in use as she was just trying to freeze the giant frog stomach for a long time rather tgen trying to blast with Danmaku
Papyrus Actually have a better stamina, I cannot think in any stamina feat in the level of Papyrus
Cirno will try to come close at fisrt so that isn't really matter, Also like you said they speed would make them cross the distance fast, some meters isn't that much really
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Cirno of cpurse have a big chance winning these but Papyrus Blue Mode is just a big conter to Cirno, attacks that need jumbing over it to dodge isn't something Cirno had with Before espicely that she always fight while flying. That with Papyrus smartness advantage, Soul attacks and his powerfull special attack would give the greatest in all time the won again the strongest in all time
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I think you missed my point.
Once Cirno's Danmaku comes out, its over. Papyrus's danmaku looks pretty damn weak in comparison to Cirno's. I did NOT compare Cirno to Marisa, why would I compare an early-game boss to a late-game boss again? Especially when I am talking about touhou of all verses?
Papyrus's soul manipulation doesn't one-shot or incapacitate instantly and his only advantage is his blue soul mode, compared to Cirno's cold that should already be above Papyrus's resistance (Papyrus's cold resist is basically "lives in Snowdin which is x degrees") and Danmaku that makes Papyrus's danmaku look like a tutorial
I'd like to remind you that Paprus scales his attacks to <<<1.5x baseline(Undyne already barely scales before you say anything) while cirno outright scales to 2x baseline or so, if not upscaling from it.
Also Cirno can and will bust out her Danmaku in a fight, first move or not it will come out at some point, and Papyrus's chances of not being dusted or severely injured by the first spell card are pretty slim
Once Cirno's Danmaku comes out, its over. Papyrus's danmaku looks pretty damn weak in comparison to Cirno's. I did NOT compare Cirno to Marisa, why would I compare an early-game boss to a late-game boss again? Especially when I am talking about touhou of all verses?
Papyrus's soul manipulation doesn't one-shot or incapacitate instantly and his only advantage is his blue soul mode, compared to Cirno's cold that should already be above Papyrus's resistance (Papyrus's cold resist is basically "lives in Snowdin which is x degrees") and Danmaku that makes Papyrus's danmaku look like a tutorial
I'd like to remind you that Paprus scales his attacks to <<<1.5x baseline(Undyne already barely scales before you say anything) while cirno outright scales to 2x baseline or so, if not upscaling from it.
Also Cirno can and will bust out her Danmaku in a fight, first move or not it will come out at some point, and Papyrus's chances of not being dusted or severely injured by the first spell card are pretty slim
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Cirno scale to his own feat which 34 kilojoules while Papyrus is scale far above 40 kilojoules, the 40 kilojoules is come from Chara fall, which start of game Frisk scale to, atart of game Frisk that have 0 ATK and 0 DEF and get threated by Monsters with ATK below 7. And Papyrus is clearly far above that. Papyrus holds a notable AP advantage here and his Durability is the same as his defense as Papyrus have the same number for both his attack and his defense
Anyway I will change my vote to Cirno because of Freezing since I forget that Papyrus resistance isn't that good but I don't think it is a stomp
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haha funny big downgrades on the wiki.
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