Page Creation: The Adversary

[soulusboy]

I've created a page for the Adversary please lmk if there are any errors and what needs to be adjusted. Also it's a tier 1 page so I need interaction.

We need to talk about Storm and Forge too since they should scale.

The Adversary

 

[Excellence616]

I've created a page for the Adversary please lmk if there are any errors and what needs to be adjusted.

The Adversary

Nice work. MFTL+ speed should be Infinite speed scaling from the likes of Mephisto, Satannish, and Marduk Kurios and his existence. and all of Marvel High 1-Bs are Infinite speed. Note should be re moved since nothing is there. His Lifting Strength should be Stellar tho but I wanna check on some Hell Lords before i can say anything about that. His High 1-B is well justified.

 

[soulusboy]

Fixed everything besides the LS

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

High Hyperverse level (Was stated by the Omniversal Guardian Roma to be a necessary aspect of existence.[1] Was capable of warping Otherworld[11] which has been described as a pan-dimensional realm[12] and a place where you can view events on every plane of the omniverse.

But since the Omniverse is Outerversal+ for comprising infinite planes of R>F transcendence leading up to the High 1-A Superflow, wouldn't this warrant an Outerversal+ or High Outer rating, similar to how Mad Jim Jaspers is High 1-A for warping the "omniverse" as the term is also used by Lady Roma and the Omniversal guardians?

Honestly, having collected over a dozen cosmology statements on Otherworld, its position in the cosmology is a bit inconsistent (even a handbook sort of acknowledged that). I'd personally recommend removing the Omniverse/Otherworld parts of the justifications, but that's just my suggestion.

 

[Excellence616]

I'd personally recommend removing the Omniverse/Otherworld parts of the justifications, but that's just my suggestion.

I agree with this since there was a little issue in one of Ultima's Marvel thread for using Omniverse

 

[soulusboy]

I deleted Roma's title and changed omniverse to multiverse, is that fine?

 

[Yuhady123]

looks good

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

I deleted Roma's title and changed omniverse to multiverse, is that fine?

I suppose. Let me check everything else.

Immortality (Types 1, 3, and 4. Was reborn as Haven's baby.)

This only sounds like types 1 and 4, not necessarily 3.

Life Manipulation and Resurrection (Brought the members of X-Factor back to life)

I believe this would only be resurrection and not life manipulation.

Everything else looks good to me.

 

[soulusboy]

Bump

 

[Yuhady123]

Ask Antvasima to tag staffs

 

[Excellence616]

Bump

 

[soulusboy]

Bump

 

[soulusboy]

Bump

 

[soulusboy]

bump

 

[Antvasima]

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What do you think about this?

 

[Lightning_XXI]

The speed, going by your scaling, should be just "Infinite" considering your giving him only High 1-B and scaling that to Mephisto's 2nd key, who's just Infinite in speed. Unless you want to scale him to Regular Mephisto, in that case, Adversary needs a 3-C rating aswell

Regular Mephisto = 3-C to High 1-B / MFTL+ to Infinite

Domain Mephisto = High 1-B / Infinite

You mixed those keys on the profile by giving to Adversary Domain Mephisto's AP but Regular Mephisto's Speed

Aside from that, you should also add the famous Marvel Scaling rules note

"Before making any changes to this page, please read and follow the Power-scaling Rules for Marvel and DC Comics."

 

[soulusboy]

I've corrected these now

 

[LordTracer]

The following P&A don’t have scans or references and need both added:

• Magic
• Reality Warping
• Chaos Manipulation
• Space-Time Manipulation
• Invulnerability
• Dimensional Travel
• Shapeshifting
• Immortality (Type 1)
• Unholy Manipulation
• Energy Manipulation and Projection

Speed needs an actual justification. You can’t just say “via scaling to Mephisto“ without explaining why he scales to Mephisto.

Lifting Strength is also missing a justification.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[soulusboy]

Bump I have updated the page lmk if there's anything else that needs to be changed

 

[Antvasima]

@LordTracer @Emirp sumitpo

Are you willing to help out here please?

 

[LordTracer]

I already gave my input here. If everything I mentioned before has been fixed, then the page should be fine. The only other input I could give is that the image should be rendered.

 

[Antvasima]

I already gave my input here. If everything I mentioned before has been fixed, then the page should be fine. The only other input I could give is that the image should be rendered.

@soulusboy

Have you handled this?

 

[soulusboy]

I have added scans and references for the p&a listed. I have changed the image, does the current one work?

 

[Antvasima]

I have added scans and references for the p&a listed. I have changed the image, does the current one work?

@LordTracer

 

[LordTracer]

I mean, the image before was fine, it just needed to be rendered. The current one is alright though.

 

[Antvasima]

And are the other issues acceptable now?

 

[LordTracer]

Yes, the page is fine now.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

The page looks fine to me.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out. The page can be created then.

 

[soulusboy]

I can create it later today but idk how to add it to the main marvel page.

 

[Antvasima]

Maybe some other member here is willing to help you out?

 

[Excellence616]

The Adversary (Marvel Comics)

Born at the beginning of the universe, the Adversary is a demonic god that seeks to return the universe to primal chaos. The Adversary’s most prominent role is in the event Fall of the Mutants where he attempts to takes over the Starlight Citadell of Otherworld and throw the world into chaos. He...

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[soulusboy]

Thanks

 

[Excellence616]

Thanks

No prob . Anything else that needs to be done?

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for your help.

It does not seem so. I will close this thread then. Thank you to everybody who helped out here.