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Orochi vs Isshiki

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Isshiki
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Orochi
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Pretty much OPM characters are Haxless, more than DB ones I dare to say. So Orochi's chance would be AP stomp
 
True, but I'm pretty sure Orochi Out Stats and Out Skills him hard.
Exatcly, Isshiki only scales to 797 Exaton which is far below Gaia canon Orochi. But here I think Isshiki can avoid it by minimize Orochi's attacks, after that Isshiki can BFR orochi to Another Dimension.
 
Orochi would end up taking his own attack if he tries any energy and long range attacks. This can be done both by the karma and also by his occular ability. The ability to shrink himself also makes it hard to Orochi to touch him as well as the ability to just hope dimensions at will. Isshiki's final option would be the seal I don tthink Orochi would be capable of touching him with his attacks due to the number of ways isshiki is capable of keeping away. Also I dont think the skill gap is that big at all. Isshiki is a master in hand to hand on the level of Naruto and Sasuke if not higher. And if all else fails he is capable of shrinking himself and controlling Orochi biologically like he did with Jigen's body. Of course karma is the true last resort but it can take a while to take effect.

Basically Isshiki mid-diff. He has the hax advantage by a lot while Orochi has the AP advantage and I guess hand to hand but Isshiki has a lot of options to avoid that.
 
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I dont think that karma is a wincon, it is non combat applicable, anyways, i will adress the others points latter
 
I remember being told in another thread that Isshiki doesn't have the Karma by M3X, not sure if it's true though.
 
I remember being told in another thread that Isshiki doesn't have the Karma by M3X, not sure if it's true though.
That makes no sense considering the karma comes from him and he can implant karma on others too.
 
That makes no sense considering the karma comes from him and he can implant karma on others too.
He implanted the Karma on Jigen, when he resurrected he shouldn't have it anymore.

Is there any showings of him using it as Isshiki?

Also being able to implant Karma isn't the same thing as having a Karma and its abilities.
 
He implanted the Karma on Jigen, when he resurrected he shouldn't have it anymore.

Is there any showings of him using it as Isshiki?
hmm actually thats true, well it wont make much of a difference his sukunahikona is better. It basically does the same thing.

Also why does orochi scale physically to that blast? Isnt that something he can only do from pulling energy from the earth.
 
hmm actually thats true, well it wont make much of a difference his sukunahikona is better. It basically does the same thing.

Also why does orochi scale physically to that blast? Isnt that something he can only do from pulling energy from the earth.
The blast wasnt the low 5-B feat
 
No Ishiki doesn't have the karma anymore but he should still be able to use it to resurrect.
 
Orochi gets the Kurama treatment.
Isshiki shrinks, puts a dozen black rods and completely immobilises and paralyses Orochi, rods also absorb the energy.
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Any energy attack Orochi tries to throw gets shrank and returned back at him.
Any physical attack can be dodged via shrinking, teleportation is also useful.
Isshiki can also BFR, even at his shrank size he can create portals.
 
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