- 31,186
- 27,366
In this recent recalculation by Kachon123, of Law's feat of lifting mountains of ice into the air with the force of his strike, a new value for the mass of the ice has been found by finding a new size and a new density for the ice.
I want to focus on the density value for the ice.
This value for the density is founded on the assumption that Aokiji's ice has a temperature of -28,000 °C.
This is based on the reasoning that Aokiji is comparable to Akainu whose magma has an assumed temperature of at least 28,000 °C.
But the lowest possible temperature, Absolute Zero, has a temperature of -273.15°C. It would not be physically possible for Aokiji's ice to be this cold.
Of course, we deal with fiction and we can index some things on our profiles that could never be possible in reality such as all of our faster than light characters, but I do not think this is a reasonable assumption to make for the calc. Just because we can accept a character having FTL movement speed for example does not mean that we can just use FTL velocities in a kinetic energy calculation. The speed value may be legit, but the calc would not be. So it's not impossible a fictional series to have a temperature lower than -273.15°C, I consider this to be too big an assumption for the calc and it would require a more direct statement.
Moreover, I do not see why would assume that even if Aokiji did create ice with this temperature, that it would necessarily stay this temperature. The battle with Akainu that created this frozen wasteland over half of Punk Hazard took place 2 years before Law's feat. That's a long time for the temperature to have supposedly remained the same. While the climate was altered so that the frozen half of the island remains at subzero temperatures, the ice itself doesn't need to be at -28,000 °C to remain frozen.
Moreover we've seen Aokiji create vast amounts of ice that can be melted by normal ambient temperatures over time such as when he frozen a large section of the sea in chapter 319. His ice is not so extremely cold as the calc proposes.
I don't think that Aokiji and Akainu being equal combatants necessarily means that Aokiji's ice has to be the exact negative value of Akainu's magma's temperature but this thread isn't aimed at that specifically, but about removing this assumption from the calc which uses an unstated temperature value that can't exist.
I want to focus on the density value for the ice.
This value for the density is founded on the assumption that Aokiji's ice has a temperature of -28,000 °C.
This is based on the reasoning that Aokiji is comparable to Akainu whose magma has an assumed temperature of at least 28,000 °C.
But the lowest possible temperature, Absolute Zero, has a temperature of -273.15°C. It would not be physically possible for Aokiji's ice to be this cold.
Of course, we deal with fiction and we can index some things on our profiles that could never be possible in reality such as all of our faster than light characters, but I do not think this is a reasonable assumption to make for the calc. Just because we can accept a character having FTL movement speed for example does not mean that we can just use FTL velocities in a kinetic energy calculation. The speed value may be legit, but the calc would not be. So it's not impossible a fictional series to have a temperature lower than -273.15°C, I consider this to be too big an assumption for the calc and it would require a more direct statement.
Moreover, I do not see why would assume that even if Aokiji did create ice with this temperature, that it would necessarily stay this temperature. The battle with Akainu that created this frozen wasteland over half of Punk Hazard took place 2 years before Law's feat. That's a long time for the temperature to have supposedly remained the same. While the climate was altered so that the frozen half of the island remains at subzero temperatures, the ice itself doesn't need to be at -28,000 °C to remain frozen.
Moreover we've seen Aokiji create vast amounts of ice that can be melted by normal ambient temperatures over time such as when he frozen a large section of the sea in chapter 319. His ice is not so extremely cold as the calc proposes.
I don't think that Aokiji and Akainu being equal combatants necessarily means that Aokiji's ice has to be the exact negative value of Akainu's magma's temperature but this thread isn't aimed at that specifically, but about removing this assumption from the calc which uses an unstated temperature value that can't exist.
