Omni vs Aliax

[Yobo_Blue]

Omni (Everybody Wants to Rule the World) vs Aliax

SBA

Who wins?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I mean

The premise of Aliax is that it just copies all abilities of the other target, and has the abilities of himself granted by Lumi

His abilities are the same tier (up to 1-A) as the target, and his own abilities are based on 1-A.

Additionally Omni doesn't have regen.

So...

What does Omni do to win here

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Pretty sure Luminous Being is one level of transcendence above 1-A, no?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Depends on the Homebrew. From a Homebrew point of view... not exactly. Lumi is the DM. They transcend all things in the game which sadly involved Mystara even in canon and 1-A bullshittery in Homebrew.

I'm not sure how strong Lumi would be in his 1-A key for Homebrew, but probably well above that.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I don't even care if he loses because we need exposure for the RP

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Also on main site, not even, he just is baseline 1-A.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Depends on the Homebrew. From a Homebrew point of view... not exactly. Lumi is the DM. They transcend all things in the game which sadly involved Mystara even in canon and 1-A bullshittery in Homebrew.

I'm not sure how strong Lumi would be in his 1-A key for Homebrew, but probably well above that.

Is there a good value that would be a base? Because considering this is Reinhard Retcon is in the hundreds IIRC

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Probably not that many layers of transcendence, no.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Not hundreds, nvm, but definitely in the dozens

 

[Mr. Bambu]

In that case, possibly. I really don't know, since D&D Homebrew isn't something I own alone. I know there's some campaigns I've heard of where it goes Infinite D Game < Players <<< Lumi <<< Monsters Playing Humans and Hallways <<< Their own Lumi <<< Real Players again <<< Lumi <<< so on and so forth

 

[Yobo_Blue]

So

Impossible to determine probably leaves it inconclusive tbh

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Not exactly. In this case I believe it is safe to say Lumi is lower, though has the potential to be even or higher.

In Homebrew, Lumi would upscale thusly:

Infinite D Mystara <<< Individual Players <<< Lumi

The question is, who kills who first, since in this key Aliax has quite a lot and always uses what is known to work.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

It essentially comes down to who hits first even then though, at best it would be Retcon vs Retcon

 

[Mr. Bambu]

basically yeah.

So probably Incon.

Eh. Hecc it I'll vote Incon, since this is a rare case where Aliax probably cannot regenerate back due to 1-A hax.

 

[DMUA]

Smurf stalemates Smurf for reasons above

 

[Yobo_Blue]

There's only one smurf

 

[DMUA]

There are infinite Smurfs

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Aliax isn't one though

 

[DMUA]

He's literally the will and power of a 1-A with technically True Godly Regen from then

Smurf

 

[Yobo_Blue]

1-A with 1-A has

How smurfy

 

[DMUA]

An avatar of a 1-A who isn't always 1-A with 1-A abilites

SMURF

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Not right now though.

 

[DMUA]

Aliax copies the opponent but adds Type 8 and bullheckery Regen

Thereby it's a 4-B with 1-A Smurf powers

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Thereby it's an 11-C with 1-A hax

someone inform Agnaa

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Also, to be more specific, Aliax actually is a smurf here- he copies Omni's exact stuff (4-B, 1-A with Retcon). He is exactly like Omni in every way except 1. made of pure gold and crimson and 2. has the other abilities on his page (True-Godly regen, Magic Nullification, etc etc).

Aliax is a smurf.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

So this is 0-0-2 rn

 

[GreyFang82]

Inconclusive for reasons above

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Ops can vote here ive heard?

 

[GreyFang82]

Ops can vote here ive heard?

Ye

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Inconclusive FRA I guess

Anyone know any good 6-B's here btw?

 

[GreyFang82]

Inconclusive FRA I guess
Anyone know any good 6-B's here btw?

Well I have one that is 6-B with prep. It probably would come down to either: Boian gets a good enough hit and kills the opponent, or the opponent survives and says: "No u" and kills him.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Doesn't seem too haxed TBH.

 

[GreyFang82]

Doesn't seem too haxed TBH.

Oh, you wanted a haxed character?

I can't help you there. Sorry.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Nah, just one that's not going to get one shot too easily. Sorry though.

 

[DMUA]

Never underestimate the hax of a DND character

They can do some scary stuff if you let them craft some spells for a month

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Well, if you think he can go up against Sam or Rose, then by all means....

 

[Mr. Bambu]

By hax you mean "I want a character that is blatantly given the Masada treatment and is low tier with 1-A abilities", correct?

If so, just throw Aliax at them. Or Masada, since I believe that's the inspiration.

D&D is plenty haxed. It is not, in fact, built to be so.

 

[DMUA]

The former, I'd think as much. The later can go eat a male set of reproductive organs and commit unalive

 

[Mr. Bambu]

So Aliax.

Do it. Cmon. It'll be easy.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

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