Obi Wan Kenobi vs Yhwach

[Schnee_One]

The Almighty is active by default.

But he can't do anything with it because of the speed gap.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

It does. People start off Lille barro in his intangible forms all the time.

 

[Schnee_One]

A vs B but A is already using X ability doesn't make any sense

Passive abilities in a nutshell tho

Not like it matters, he can have it already active for all that matters.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

If the almighty isn't active then the guy stomps, if it's active then there is nothing that guy can do. Nothing at all.

 

[Schnee_One]

You're right.

Yhwach can't do anything with the almighty active or not.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Forms =/= Ability

"Goku starts off as a Super Saiyan" =/= "Goku has already launched a Spirit Bomb"

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

that's my cue

 

[Schnee_One]

Forms =/= Ability

"Goku starts off as a Super Saiyan" =/= "Goku has already launched a Spirit Bomb"

I mean that's true but I meant passive abilities like mind hax by looking at people.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Wasn't exactly taking passive abilities in account there

 

[Schnee_One]

\_(-_-)_/

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

It still seems that Yhwach actually has to so something though, going by the above

Which is why I didn't think about passive abilities

 

[Rocker1189]

Fact is the almighty can not make him do the impossible he can not win this.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Altering the future is the impossible lmao.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I don't think you know how the light works

 

[Rocker1189]

Altering the future is the impossible lmao.

That is not my point. None of the futures he can choose have him able to not be speed blitzed.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

The Almighty can't create a future that Yhwach can't make happen. Kenobi blitzes.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Go to his page, and show me where you see that as a weakness. Show me where that's his weakness. You give him weakness that don't exist in the first place

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Go to his page, and show me where you see that as a weakness. Show me where that's his weakness. You give him weakness that don't exist in the first place

So he can create any future he wants even when his opponent kills him before he can think. By that logic he solos Dragon Ball.

 

[Rocker1189]

It is a weakness that is percieved from his use of the almighty rather than giving him powers that he has only barely hinted at with boasting words.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

The burden of proof is on you there. We aren't "giving" him any weakness, it's just not how his power works.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

you're taking "Manipulating the future" out of the context... I can manipulate the content of a Glass of water, I can throw out the water and replace it with wine, it doesn't mean I can literally turn the water into wine. same concept

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

You can't kill him before he can think when he can **** You over In the future before you even do anything. He can also reverse his own death. Ôÿò´©Å

 

[Dat_Dot]

You know, if this indeed stomp can we just close this if it's stomp? The speed gap is too much :/

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Kenobi can Blitz Yhwach before even a neutron forms in his brain to create a thought.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Sigh. Let's say that happens? What's stopping Him from coming back and killing the guy?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

What a mess.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

You can't kill him before he can think when he can ****
You over In the future before you even do anything. He can also reverse his own death. Ôÿò´©Å

If that's the case then Yhwach never would have lost at all.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

What you listed wasn't future manipautiom, it was making a choice.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

PIS is a thing

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

because he isn't going to choose a future in which he lives, via mind hax Kenobi can make Yhwach choose a future in which he permanently dies. Yhwach wouldnt even know what happened.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

or you know tell Yhwach to switch off his Almighty and kill himself

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Sigh. Let's say that happens? What's stopping
Him from coming back and killing the guy?

He just gets blitzed again. Or killed before he can change the future at all.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

This is hilarious

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

if you honestly think that Yhwach's Almighty can counter force mind hax, it's laughable

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Yeah, it is a hilarious stomp


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