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• Additional Void' Manipulation (Mugen Tsukiyokmi).

• Additional Void' Manipulation (Mugen Tsukiyokmi).

[ https://gyazo.com/e11946a1acb4ffec5beffcd07275354e ].
[ https://gyazo.com/a15ff15c512ac71d57abfc6d3d7580ee ]
So here I will discuss a little about the capabilities of Mugen Tsukiyokmi, which might need to be considered to add this ability to Madara's profile. In my opinion, the ability of the Unlimited Tsukiyokmi is not only limited to creating a very strong limitless illusion, but is also able to create nothingness/emptiness.

[ https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Void_Manipulation ].
Void Manipulation, also known as Nothingness Manipulation, is the ability to control and manipulate the void: nothingness or nothingness.

[ https://gyazo.com/3a873e2fa665ae35498dca7e6e6dfcfd ]
Mugen Tsukiyokmi's capabilities are explained by Haguromo as being able to manipulate the world by creating a very powerful infinite genjutsu, and can put its victims into an eternal dream. On the other hand, Mugen Tsukiyokmi's ability is increasingly demonstrated by the case of Madara who succeeded in activating Mugen Tsukiyokmi, in Naruto Chapter 676 - 678. Madara explains that he wants to be the savior of the world, by creating an empty world, because he doesn't want war and destruction anymore, that's the reason.
[ https://gyazo.com/e57be1d3cc978af374c30542a9ce4029 ]
[ https://gyazo.com/47110b8c3aa533d2ba3e244f2adb73d4 ]

However Madara did not know the true purpose of the Unlimited Tsukuyomi until he was betrayed by Zetsu. Kaguya may not have known the tree's true purpose until she joined it. Hagoromo needed Gamamaru, who was a Sage, to identify what was happening. With the creation of Mugen Tsukiyokmi, Madara will accidentally create nothingness by destroying all life / all activities on earth to stop the war he doesn't want by activating the Unlimited Tsukiyokmi, a powerful Genjutsu, which is able to put everyone in an eternal dream, this Genjutsu is just a technique to help the Shinju destroy the entire planet, so that the entire earth is completely desolate, barren and empty, this emptiness can only be filled by achieving unlimited tsukuyomi to prove to himself that he is still capable of being a protector and protector, even Maybe Madara himself didn't realize it. But even if he completely destroys and rebuilds the world anew, in the end the world will return to the way it is now. as time goes by, people will fight again. not to mention how he could rebuild the world after destroying everyone, even if Madara made himself immortal to try and control the world, a fight would still happen.

[ https://gyazo.com/77ea4720883cd73668f29058e664d1ce ]
The boundless Tsukuyomi (as Madara believed) would create an empty world illuminated by white Light, and with the shinju tree making everyone dream where they could live in their own happy world and be in their own paradise, no battles or wars, so that all activities that occur on earth, such as conflict, suffering, disappear, creating a peaceful world.

So with all the information and evidence available, do you agree with the addition of Void' Manipulation to Madara's profile, if not, please provide a reason, thank you.
 
If this is the case, why does the earth not become nothingness, when IT happens on earth. The illuminating light was used perhaps to lure creatures on earth to look up [the moon].

It would be better if it was reinforced by a statement of 'nothingness' or something similar. Because if it's like this, it's just hyperbole.

Light still has energy, which is irrelevant to the void manipulation.
 
The Mugen Tsukoyomi doesn’t even have anything to do with literal nothingness, it’s just regular ol’ mind manipulation where you have to induce people with light to make the thing work.

I wholeheartedly disagree on this thread.
 
The Mugen Tsukoyomi doesn’t even have anything to do with literal nothingness, it’s just regular ol’ mind manipulation where you have to induce people with light to make the thing work.

I wholeheartedly disagree on this thread.

OK, I understand what you mean, I think so too, but what if ETSB belongs to Kaguya? Can you get Void Manip?, because it is capable of making dimensions into nothingness
 
Mugen Tsukuyomi is Mind Manipulation jutsu, not Void Manipulation, and the scans you provided have nothing to do with void or nothingness as literal means. The narrative or scene also does not shows Madara create or manipulate nothingness.

Disagree of course.
 
• Additional Void' Manipulation (Mugen Tsukiyokmi).

[ https://gyazo.com/e11946a1acb4ffec5beffcd07275354e ].
[ https://gyazo.com/a15ff15c512ac71d57abfc6d3d7580ee ]
So here I will discuss a little about the capabilities of Mugen Tsukiyokmi, which might need to be considered to add this ability to Madara's profile. In my opinion, the ability of the Unlimited Tsukiyokmi is not only limited to creating a very strong limitless illusion, but is also able to create nothingness/emptiness.

[ https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Void_Manipulation ].
Void Manipulation, also known as Nothingness Manipulation, is the ability to control and manipulate the void: nothingness or nothingness.

[ https://gyazo.com/3a873e2fa665ae35498dca7e6e6dfcfd ]
Mugen Tsukiyokmi's capabilities are explained by Haguromo as being able to manipulate the world by creating a very powerful infinite genjutsu, and can put its victims into an eternal dream. On the other hand, Mugen Tsukiyokmi's ability is increasingly demonstrated by the case of Madara who succeeded in activating Mugen Tsukiyokmi, in Naruto Chapter 676 - 678. Madara explains that he wants to be the savior of the world, by creating an empty world, because he doesn't want war and destruction anymore, that's the reason.
[ https://gyazo.com/e57be1d3cc978af374c30542a9ce4029 ]
[ https://gyazo.com/47110b8c3aa533d2ba3e244f2adb73d4 ]

However Madara did not know the true purpose of the Unlimited Tsukuyomi until he was betrayed by Zetsu. Kaguya may not have known the tree's true purpose until she joined it. Hagoromo needed Gamamaru, who was a Sage, to identify what was happening. With the creation of Mugen Tsukiyokmi, Madara will accidentally create nothingness by destroying all life / all activities on earth to stop the war he doesn't want by activating the Unlimited Tsukiyokmi, a powerful Genjutsu, which is able to put everyone in an eternal dream, this Genjutsu is just a technique to help the Shinju destroy the entire planet, so that the entire earth is completely desolate, barren and empty, this emptiness can only be filled by achieving unlimited tsukuyomi to prove to himself that he is still capable of being a protector and protector, even Maybe Madara himself didn't realize it. But even if he completely destroys and rebuilds the world anew, in the end the world will return to the way it is now. as time goes by, people will fight again. not to mention how he could rebuild the world after destroying everyone, even if Madara made himself immortal to try and control the world, a fight would still happen.

[ https://gyazo.com/77ea4720883cd73668f29058e664d1ce ]
The boundless Tsukuyomi (as Madara believed) would create an empty world illuminated by white Light, and with the shinju tree making everyone dream where they could live in their own happy world and be in their own paradise, no battles or wars, so that all activities that occur on earth, such as conflict, suffering, disappear, creating a peaceful world.

So with all the information and evidence available, do you agree with the addition of Void' Manipulation to Madara's profile, if not, please provide a reason, thank you.
Say we agree the earth becomes empty,barren, desolate e.t.c. how does that relate to void manipulation? Void manipulation is the manipulation of nothingness or none existence. Are you saying a barren or dead planet is nothingness?
 
Mugen Tsukuyomi is Mind Manipulation jutsu, not Void Manipulation, and the scans you provided have nothing to do with void or nothingness as literal means. The narrative or scene also does not shows Madara create or manipulate nothingness.

Disagree of course.
Thank you for your input, I agree with it. I'll try adding it to Kaguya's ETSB capabilities.
 
I mean from what I remembered it returns something to “naught”, so I guess yeah.
Thank you for your input. I didn't find any void manipulation capabilities in Kaguya's profile, I plan to create a new thread to add void manipulation to Kaguya's ETSB.
 
Say we agree the earth becomes empty,barren, desolate e.t.c. how does that relate to void manipulation? Void manipulation is the manipulation of nothingness or none existence. Are you saying a barren or dead planet is nothingness?
Yes, I thought so at first, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with nothingness manipulation.
 
If this is the case, why does the earth not become nothingness, when IT happens on earth. The illuminating light was used perhaps to lure creatures on earth to look up [the moon].

It would be better if it was reinforced by a statement of 'nothingness' or something similar. Because if it's like this, it's just hyperbole.

Light still has energy, which is irrelevant to the void manipulation.
OK, thanks for the input
 
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