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This will be going over changes needed the characters from Disgaea 1. The first thing is the splitting of late game key into Late game (Disgaea 1) | Late game (Disgaea D2). As there is a notable power and speed. in this scene we see a Laharl that should be slightly stronger then his late game disgaea 1 self unable to damage this barrier. we see the final boss of disgaea d2 is able to one shot it, and was moving so fast he was only perceivable by etna. this character is later beaten by the cast. but this shows there is a notable level of power between late game disgaea 1 and disgaea D2. Speed wise the late game disgaea 1 keys would scale to the post game disgaea 5 cast as they fought one of their members.
Another thing is Laharl Would need his intelligence changed. It has no rating. this should be changed to At least Above Average, possibly Gifted. The reason as shown in his disgaea 2 stats he shows S rank is sword skill making him equal to the Majin who are rank s in masteries making them skilled enough to have mastered almost every sword style in the netherworlds. He also show A rank mastery in axes, and B rank mastery in hand to hand, and spear With The Necomata being stated to be Master level combatants and range from rank C to rank B. This would give Laharl master level of skill in hand, and spear. As well a high level of Mastery in skill with axes. As well he has a level of intellect that is comparable to his father's advisors. as he was never really shocked by any of their plans.
Etna should be Just gifted rating. She has shown A rank skill in spears, guns and axes, B rank skills in staves/magic and magic tomes, C rank in hand to hand, sword, and bows. making her have baseline master level skill to high end master level skill in ever weapon type. on top of the fact that after she stopped serving laharl in disgaea 2 his government collapsed without her there showing that she was the one keeping it going.
Flonne should be Above Average, possibly Gifted usually. She has S rank in staves/magic, A rank in bows, and magic tomes, B rank in guns, C rank in Swords and Spears. As well helped make Great Flonzor X a massive mech capable of lifting the moon, used to travel between spacetimes, space flight, and has a rocket punch.
Now we need to add keys For Disgaea RPG. With this being one of the last games in the timeline this shows these characters at their strongest. Now with this a human (The PC) Gets summoned to the netherworld and is shown to give an insane boost to those training under them shown here where after the main training Valvatoraez claims to feel like his old tyrant self again. This is the baseline for those that end up getting trained. Characters like Laharl, Adell, Moa, Killia, Zed and a few others would scale to this since the lead characters are shown to be in the same ballpark as each other
secondary casts members like etna and flonne, and the generics should scale to being 30% weaker than that as they are shown to need a transformation to keep up with people that laharl was at least able to fight solo. Considering Flonne's pure flonne form is accepted as a 30% boost to all stats.
now for the extra bonus these comes in the forms of awakening, reincarnating, Super Reincarnating and , Killia's training, Nether Enhancement to go over what these gave
Awakening: Those that went through it gained a 2x amp to attack power, durability and HP
reincarnating: This sets characters power back to their baseline but gaining mana that can be used to boost weapon skills and let mao enhance their stats by an unknown amount with cheat, and boost their mastery in weapon use.
Super Reincarnating: By going to Zed's 4d netherworld to get their power reset but every time they to they gain karma which when used boosts attack power, durability and HP by 10%
Nether Enhancement: Characters go to moa's lab and go through a prosses of getting power boosted which versa depending oh the person and even form the character is in.
Killia's training: Characters train with Killia giving them a minor power boosts, and a speed boost.
Now characters that have multiple forms can go through these boosts again with each form.
now for speed there needs to be a correction in a past thread it was believed that a +100 to the Action Gauge was a 20% speed boost this is wrong. Shown here the action Action Gauge has 1000 points to it. making a +100 a 10% boost.
So using the formula linked above we can find how much a +1 to speed we will use etna as the baseline.
etna's base speed it 51
so (15*51)-400+0=365
now with the +1 from killia's training we get.
(15*52)-400+0=380
this means +1 speed=+15 to the Action Gauge or a 1.5% boost to speed.
So for what each character would get
Laharl,
So Base laharl would gain the following
Scaling to old Tyrant Val with
2x to attack power, durability and HP from awakening, 2.3x attack power, durability and HP from Nether Enhancement,+15% to attack power from killia's training +4.5% to speed from killia's training, +10% to attack power, durability and HP from super reincarnating.
A big thanks to the hard work of the translators of the disgaea RPG discord we have the Soul Brave event translated where laharl, Adell, Mao, Valvatorez, Killia, Zed, Preir, Ash and several secondary characters were able to give Gig one of the strongest character in the verse a thrilling fight while he restricted himself to under 50% of his power. this is impressive as up until now unless he heavily weakened (like in disgaea 3) Gig has stomped every single cast while holding back greatly and when he is going to give an attack with 100% power it would kill any of the casts he has run into. to note the a 100% power attack from Gig was strong enough to one shot the character right below him on the scaling chain. This should make laharl, the other leads, and the secondary characters into into the lowest end of the god level 2-As.
Brave Laharl:
This is a form give to Laharl after he was given given the power of a hero making him stronger than base form. While this was a temporary form in the plot it will need a key as the following key.
This form would give Laharl, Force field creation, as well as
2x to attack power, durability and HP from awakening, 2.3x attack power, durability and HP from Nether Enhancement,+15% to attack power from killia's training +1.5% to speed from killia's training, +10% to attack power, durability and HP from super reincarnating.
Legendary Overlord Laharl:
Now with while the main plot is still ongoing the 6 main leads have gained a super form stronger than any past forms. Laharl's stats that he has broken his limits while in this form making him stronger than Brave Laharl. while it states that he is above all demon this is not the case as statements would put killia above him, as well true Zenon would still be stronger. this form does not have a unit yet so we do not know what his stat boosts from Killia's training, Nether Enhancement are or his new skills and evilities are either.
Etna,
Etna like Laharl needs a key for her disgaea 1 self.
Now for DRPG Base unlike Laharl Etna has alt that are her in a different costume and are not linked to a transformation, so their evilities, and skills should be a part of her base from.
Base: So etna would gain the Kill You Quick evility giving her a 10% speed boost at the start of battle.
And gains 2x to attack power, durability and HP from awakening, 2.3x attack power, durability and HP from Nether Enhancement,+15% to attack power from killia's training +1.5% to speed from killia's training, +10% to attack power, durability and HP from super reincarnating.
*Beach etna: she would gain the following evilities,
Summer Enjoyment: Etna and Sword using allies have all their stats except speed boosted by 15%.
Beach Dash: Etna and Sword equipped allies have has their non speed stats boosted by 20%, and speed is boosted by 12%
Captivating Swimsuit: All male's she is fighting have the durability lowered by 15%
Summer Fever: Lowers damage from males by 30% and lower damage allies get by 10%
* New Years Etna
This would give her sound Manipulation from her new skills
And the new evilities are
Beauty Queen's New Years Kimono: All enemies have there attack power and durability lowered by 15%
Endless Good Fortune!: When etna is facing 2 or more enemies her speed boosted by 15%
Breath of Fresh Year: When teamed up with 3 or more humanoid class characters all skills do +18% More damage.
Etna's New Years Gift: The highest attack power member on Etna's team gains a 40% boost to attack power.
Now for Etna's transformation called Majin Etna this will be it's own key, and show above DRPG seems to treat this as a similar power boost to pure flonne, and Valvatoraez taking on his tyrant form so it should be around a 30% boost and gains 2x to attack power, durability and HP from awakening, 2.3x attack power, durability and HP from Nether Enhancement,+15% to attack power from killia's training +1.5% to speed from killia's training, +10% to attack power, durability and HP from super reincarnating.
She would also gain the following evilities
Red Devil: This evility boosts all Etna's stat except speed and HP by 22% at the start of battle.
Body of Jealousy: this evility lowers the durability of other females by 14%.
Speed Lancer: This evility boosts Etna's speed by 12% at the start of a fight.
Proud Loner: At the start start of Battle Etna's Stamina is boosted.
Flonne
Like the other she needs a key for her late game disgaea 1 self
Base form: So she would gain the following 2x to attack power, durability and HP from awakening, 2.3x attack power, durability and HP from Nether Enhancement,+15% to attack power from killia's training +1.5% to speed from killia's training, +10% to attack power, durability and HP from super reincarnating.
and the following evilites
Heart of Love: this evility heals flonne and allies by 20% of their max HP.
Gift for You: This evility boosts EXP gain by 5%
Field of Love: This evility lowers the damage Flonne and allies 10%
*Beach Flonne
This unit is just base flonne but in a new outfit so she should gain these evilities
Beach Tension: this evility boosts flonne and all allies attack power and durability by 15%.
New Swimsuit Excitement: this evility boosts Flonne's damage output by 60%, and allies by 15%.
Always Wear Sunscreen!: this evility heals flonne and allies by 8%, and recover portion of their stamina.
Summer Rise: this evility boosts the attack power and durability of Flonne's fastest ally by 30%
Pure Flonne: This Transformation is a 30% boost to all her stats
But gains an extra 2x to attack power, durability and HP from awakening, 2.3x attack power, durability and HP from Nether Enhancement,+15% to attack power from killia's training +1.5% to speed from killia's training, +10% to attack power, durability and HP from super reincarnating.
and the following evilities
Super Pure Flonne
Super pure Flonne is a even stronger upgrade to pure Flonne.
since for would gain extra 2x to attack power, durability and HP from awakening, 2.3x attack power, durability and HP from Nether Enhancement,+15% to attack power from killia's training +1.5% to speed from killia's training, +10% to attack power, durability and HP from super reincarnating.
She would gain the following evilities
Super Awakening of Love: This Evility Flonne and all allies have all stats except speed 14%.
Lovely Miracle Stick: This Evility When Flonne uses a staff all elemental attacks deal+50% more damage, and allies have their damage boosted by 20%.
Guardian Angel of Love: This Evility all buffs for allies are boosted by 20%, and debuffs applied by allies are boosted by 15%.
Extreme Love: This Evility the slowest ally on the battle field has their attack power boosted by 40%.
And should gain transmutation As she she can fire a beam that turns things into crystal.
And Gravity Manipulation from the Gravity of Love skill with the description of "A love heavier than gravity itself" and shows her using the power of love to crush people with Gravity
As well with these attacks being considered Star Damage Anyone who can resist star attacks Resist the skill effects. Thank to Innocence and evilities would make almost everyone in the verse resistance to both transmutation, and Gravity Manipulation.
Another thing is Laharl Would need his intelligence changed. It has no rating. this should be changed to At least Above Average, possibly Gifted. The reason as shown in his disgaea 2 stats he shows S rank is sword skill making him equal to the Majin who are rank s in masteries making them skilled enough to have mastered almost every sword style in the netherworlds. He also show A rank mastery in axes, and B rank mastery in hand to hand, and spear With The Necomata being stated to be Master level combatants and range from rank C to rank B. This would give Laharl master level of skill in hand, and spear. As well a high level of Mastery in skill with axes. As well he has a level of intellect that is comparable to his father's advisors. as he was never really shocked by any of their plans.
Etna should be Just gifted rating. She has shown A rank skill in spears, guns and axes, B rank skills in staves/magic and magic tomes, C rank in hand to hand, sword, and bows. making her have baseline master level skill to high end master level skill in ever weapon type. on top of the fact that after she stopped serving laharl in disgaea 2 his government collapsed without her there showing that she was the one keeping it going.
Flonne should be Above Average, possibly Gifted usually. She has S rank in staves/magic, A rank in bows, and magic tomes, B rank in guns, C rank in Swords and Spears. As well helped make Great Flonzor X a massive mech capable of lifting the moon, used to travel between spacetimes, space flight, and has a rocket punch.
Now we need to add keys For Disgaea RPG. With this being one of the last games in the timeline this shows these characters at their strongest. Now with this a human (The PC) Gets summoned to the netherworld and is shown to give an insane boost to those training under them shown here where after the main training Valvatoraez claims to feel like his old tyrant self again. This is the baseline for those that end up getting trained. Characters like Laharl, Adell, Moa, Killia, Zed and a few others would scale to this since the lead characters are shown to be in the same ballpark as each other
secondary casts members like etna and flonne, and the generics should scale to being 30% weaker than that as they are shown to need a transformation to keep up with people that laharl was at least able to fight solo. Considering Flonne's pure flonne form is accepted as a 30% boost to all stats.
now for the extra bonus these comes in the forms of awakening, reincarnating, Super Reincarnating and , Killia's training, Nether Enhancement to go over what these gave
Awakening: Those that went through it gained a 2x amp to attack power, durability and HP
reincarnating: This sets characters power back to their baseline but gaining mana that can be used to boost weapon skills and let mao enhance their stats by an unknown amount with cheat, and boost their mastery in weapon use.
Super Reincarnating: By going to Zed's 4d netherworld to get their power reset but every time they to they gain karma which when used boosts attack power, durability and HP by 10%
Nether Enhancement: Characters go to moa's lab and go through a prosses of getting power boosted which versa depending oh the person and even form the character is in.
Killia's training: Characters train with Killia giving them a minor power boosts, and a speed boost.
Now characters that have multiple forms can go through these boosts again with each form.
now for speed there needs to be a correction in a past thread it was believed that a +100 to the Action Gauge was a 20% speed boost this is wrong. Shown here the action Action Gauge has 1000 points to it. making a +100 a 10% boost.
So using the formula linked above we can find how much a +1 to speed we will use etna as the baseline.
etna's base speed it 51
so (15*51)-400+0=365
now with the +1 from killia's training we get.
(15*52)-400+0=380
this means +1 speed=+15 to the Action Gauge or a 1.5% boost to speed.
So for what each character would get
Laharl,
So Base laharl would gain the following
Scaling to old Tyrant Val with
2x to attack power, durability and HP from awakening, 2.3x attack power, durability and HP from Nether Enhancement,+15% to attack power from killia's training +4.5% to speed from killia's training, +10% to attack power, durability and HP from super reincarnating.
A big thanks to the hard work of the translators of the disgaea RPG discord we have the Soul Brave event translated where laharl, Adell, Mao, Valvatorez, Killia, Zed, Preir, Ash and several secondary characters were able to give Gig one of the strongest character in the verse a thrilling fight while he restricted himself to under 50% of his power. this is impressive as up until now unless he heavily weakened (like in disgaea 3) Gig has stomped every single cast while holding back greatly and when he is going to give an attack with 100% power it would kill any of the casts he has run into. to note the a 100% power attack from Gig was strong enough to one shot the character right below him on the scaling chain. This should make laharl, the other leads, and the secondary characters into into the lowest end of the god level 2-As.
Brave Laharl:
This is a form give to Laharl after he was given given the power of a hero making him stronger than base form. While this was a temporary form in the plot it will need a key as the following key.
This form would give Laharl, Force field creation, as well as
2x to attack power, durability and HP from awakening, 2.3x attack power, durability and HP from Nether Enhancement,+15% to attack power from killia's training +1.5% to speed from killia's training, +10% to attack power, durability and HP from super reincarnating.
Legendary Overlord Laharl:
Now with while the main plot is still ongoing the 6 main leads have gained a super form stronger than any past forms. Laharl's stats that he has broken his limits while in this form making him stronger than Brave Laharl. while it states that he is above all demon this is not the case as statements would put killia above him, as well true Zenon would still be stronger. this form does not have a unit yet so we do not know what his stat boosts from Killia's training, Nether Enhancement are or his new skills and evilities are either.
Etna,
Etna like Laharl needs a key for her disgaea 1 self.
Now for DRPG Base unlike Laharl Etna has alt that are her in a different costume and are not linked to a transformation, so their evilities, and skills should be a part of her base from.
Base: So etna would gain the Kill You Quick evility giving her a 10% speed boost at the start of battle.
And gains 2x to attack power, durability and HP from awakening, 2.3x attack power, durability and HP from Nether Enhancement,+15% to attack power from killia's training +1.5% to speed from killia's training, +10% to attack power, durability and HP from super reincarnating.
*Beach etna: she would gain the following evilities,
Summer Enjoyment: Etna and Sword using allies have all their stats except speed boosted by 15%.
Beach Dash: Etna and Sword equipped allies have has their non speed stats boosted by 20%, and speed is boosted by 12%
Captivating Swimsuit: All male's she is fighting have the durability lowered by 15%
Summer Fever: Lowers damage from males by 30% and lower damage allies get by 10%
* New Years Etna
This would give her sound Manipulation from her new skills
And the new evilities are
Beauty Queen's New Years Kimono: All enemies have there attack power and durability lowered by 15%
Endless Good Fortune!: When etna is facing 2 or more enemies her speed boosted by 15%
Breath of Fresh Year: When teamed up with 3 or more humanoid class characters all skills do +18% More damage.
Etna's New Years Gift: The highest attack power member on Etna's team gains a 40% boost to attack power.
Now for Etna's transformation called Majin Etna this will be it's own key, and show above DRPG seems to treat this as a similar power boost to pure flonne, and Valvatoraez taking on his tyrant form so it should be around a 30% boost and gains 2x to attack power, durability and HP from awakening, 2.3x attack power, durability and HP from Nether Enhancement,+15% to attack power from killia's training +1.5% to speed from killia's training, +10% to attack power, durability and HP from super reincarnating.
She would also gain the following evilities
Red Devil: This evility boosts all Etna's stat except speed and HP by 22% at the start of battle.
Body of Jealousy: this evility lowers the durability of other females by 14%.
Speed Lancer: This evility boosts Etna's speed by 12% at the start of a fight.
Proud Loner: At the start start of Battle Etna's Stamina is boosted.
Flonne
Like the other she needs a key for her late game disgaea 1 self
Base form: So she would gain the following 2x to attack power, durability and HP from awakening, 2.3x attack power, durability and HP from Nether Enhancement,+15% to attack power from killia's training +1.5% to speed from killia's training, +10% to attack power, durability and HP from super reincarnating.
and the following evilites
Heart of Love: this evility heals flonne and allies by 20% of their max HP.
Gift for You: This evility boosts EXP gain by 5%
Field of Love: This evility lowers the damage Flonne and allies 10%
*Beach Flonne
This unit is just base flonne but in a new outfit so she should gain these evilities
Beach Tension: this evility boosts flonne and all allies attack power and durability by 15%.
New Swimsuit Excitement: this evility boosts Flonne's damage output by 60%, and allies by 15%.
Always Wear Sunscreen!: this evility heals flonne and allies by 8%, and recover portion of their stamina.
Summer Rise: this evility boosts the attack power and durability of Flonne's fastest ally by 30%
Pure Flonne: This Transformation is a 30% boost to all her stats
But gains an extra 2x to attack power, durability and HP from awakening, 2.3x attack power, durability and HP from Nether Enhancement,+15% to attack power from killia's training +1.5% to speed from killia's training, +10% to attack power, durability and HP from super reincarnating.
and the following evilities
Super Pure Flonne
Super pure Flonne is a even stronger upgrade to pure Flonne.
since for would gain extra 2x to attack power, durability and HP from awakening, 2.3x attack power, durability and HP from Nether Enhancement,+15% to attack power from killia's training +1.5% to speed from killia's training, +10% to attack power, durability and HP from super reincarnating.
She would gain the following evilities
Super Awakening of Love: This Evility Flonne and all allies have all stats except speed 14%.
Lovely Miracle Stick: This Evility When Flonne uses a staff all elemental attacks deal+50% more damage, and allies have their damage boosted by 20%.
Guardian Angel of Love: This Evility all buffs for allies are boosted by 20%, and debuffs applied by allies are boosted by 15%.
Extreme Love: This Evility the slowest ally on the battle field has their attack power boosted by 40%.
And should gain transmutation As she she can fire a beam that turns things into crystal.
And Gravity Manipulation from the Gravity of Love skill with the description of "A love heavier than gravity itself" and shows her using the power of love to crush people with Gravity
As well with these attacks being considered Star Damage Anyone who can resist star attacks Resist the skill effects. Thank to Innocence and evilities would make almost everyone in the verse resistance to both transmutation, and Gravity Manipulation.
