Next Generation of Heroes: Deku vs. Superboy

[Ionliosite]

Jon Kent vs. Izuku Midoriya

• Speed is equalized
• 8% Izuku and 8-C Jon will be used
• All other Standard Battle Assumptions

Who wins and why?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Pretty sure Jon was supposed to be downgraded along with the other 8-Cs

 

[Ionliosite]

Which other 8-Cs?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

all of the 8-Cs in the verse, they all got knocked down to 9-A

 

[Ionliosite]

But that's why Jon is 8-C, he can one-shot Damian, who is 9-A+.

 

[The_Impress]

Um, weren't only the Post-Crisis ones downgraded? This Superboy's Post-Flashpoint, that retain their tier

 

[WeeklyBattles]

How far into 9-A+ is he?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Um, weren't only the Post-Crisis ones downgraded? This Superboy's Post-Flashpoint, that retain their tier

Which version is Robin (Damian Wayne)? Because this is who Jon is scaled to

 

[Ionliosite]

Damian's profile is... weird, because he has feats from both Post-Crisis and Post-Flashpoint.

 

[The_Impress]

Post-Flashpoint, which scales from Batman (Post-Flashpoint)

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Post-Flashpoint, which scales from Batman (Post-Flashpoint)

But Damian is scaled to post crisis katana, batman, and nightwing

 

[The_Impress]

Damian's profile is... weird, because he has feats from both Post-Crisis and Post-Flashpoint.

That's an oof, considering both of those have a completely different tier that doesn't cross-scale in any regard. Probably send it to the Article Clean-Up report, right?

 

[The_Impress]

But Damian is scaled to post crisis katana, batman, and nightwing

Then that's the wrong version, because Rebirth can definitely never scale to any Post-Crisis. Both are different continuities, it's like me scaling DBS to DBGT or something

Simply put, Superboy scales to the Post-Flashpoint version of Damian, who in turn scales to the Post-Flashpoint version of Batman. He doesn't scale to the Post-Crisis version of anything

 

[Ionliosite]

In any case, Damian's profile should be turned into Post-Flashpoint, because he barely appeared in Post-Crisis.

 

[Ionliosite]

But Damian is scaled to post crisis katana, batman, and nightwing

Then that's the wrong version, because Rebirth can definitely never scale to any Post-Crisis.

Both Wonder Woman (Post-Flashpoint) and Superman (Post-Flashpoint) are scaled to Post-Crisis tho.

 

[Ionliosite]

Bump

 

[Ionliosite]

Bump

 

[Ionliosite]

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[Ionliosite]

Bump

 

[Stefano4444]

Deku with 6/10 difficulty via AP/Dura.

Superboy is only baseline Building level (by oneshotting Damian, who is Small Building level+), while Deku is Building level+, meaning the latter is at little more than 4 times stronger than the former, and since Superboy doesn't possess any hax that coud nullify this difference in AP, i don't see him winning this fight.

Also, while Superboy had fought again other superpower people before, Deku had more training with All Might and in the school, meaning he may had better combat skills.

 

[Ionliosite]

Deku: 1

Jon: 0

 

[The_Impress]

Jon oneshot a Building+, not a Small Building+. We aren't going to be using Post-Crisis Robin to scale when the Batman (Post-Flashpoint) is 8-C+, and Robin clearly would scale to that

 

[Stefano4444]

Jon oneshot a Building+, not a Small Building+. We aren't going to be using Post-Crisis Robin to scale when the Batman (Post-Flashpoint) is 8-C+, and Robin clearly would scale to that

Problem is that Damian's (at its for now) scale to Post Crisis Katana only, even of its wrong, you will have to make a revision first, but until that Jon is going to be just Building level, at least in this thread.

 

[Ionliosite]

Bump

 

[The_Impress]

Problem is that Damian's (at its for now) scale to Post Crisis Katana only, even of its wrong, you will have to make a revision first, but until that Jon is going to be just Building level, at least in this fight.

Because that's Post-Crisis Damien. So we're not scaling Jon to the profile in the wiki. I can't scale MCU Iron Man to Comics Iron Man now, can I? So for all intents and purposes, AP point is moot as Jon Kent scales to a Building+

It's an entirely different point to just drop this match due to unreliable statitistics, you're pretending he's a baseline when he clearly isn't

 

[Stefano4444]

It's an entirely different point to just drop this match due to unreliable statitistics, you're pretending he's a baseline when he clearly isn't

I'm not trying to say that you're wrong, but that until a revision is made to adjust the current scaling (and also accepted), Jon cannot be Building level+ in this specific match.

If you really want, you can ask Ionliosite to just close the match since Jon's profile is currently inaccurate.

 

[Ionliosite]

I can't close the match since I'm not a mod.

 

[The_Impress]

I thought I already asked for Ionliosite to close the match, and it was continuing despite that while everyone was assuming it to be a fine match.

Anyhow, both Damien and Jon will receive major revisions, so this should be closed until that's resolved